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[-] AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee 22 points 4 days ago

Lots of comments complaining about restaurants not being inclusive, but it's unrealistic to expect others to bend to your needs.

I can't go to a vegan joint and get upset when they don't want to serve me a steak.

Nor can I het upset when a restaurant isn't Halal.

If you want vegan, go to a place that sells vegan food.

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[-] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 191 points 5 days ago

No way this is real.

The waiter would have said "Non."

[-] MemmingenFan923@feddit.org 57 points 5 days ago

No she was in a deep shock that she forgot her mother tongue and the brain switched to the next available language.

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 47 points 5 days ago

and the brain switched to the ~~next available~~ factory default language, English.

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[-] Monstrosity@lemm.ee 143 points 5 days ago

I am not a vegan but oat milk lattes are the best lattes. They are creamy, rich with flavor that's perfectly aligned w the coffee, lower in calories & more sustainable than classic dairy.

Everyone should try them once at least.

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[-] BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works 59 points 5 days ago

I'm a french vegetarian living in France after living 6 years in Scotland, France is years behind on the diet inclusion issue, I was shocked how difficult it was to find a place to eat out in Paris, way too many cafe/restaurant/etc.. gets defensive and refuse to serve you if you don't have the "historical diet" (whatever that means) of france, and a lot of them don't offer any "common alternative diet" options on the menu. And it's not better outside of Paris.

Then of course there are some great places that try to include everyone regardless of their diet, and they are increasing in numbers, but they are still the exception rather than the norm which is a shame.

If you ever goes in Paris and looking for a fully vegetarian classy restaurant, I recommand "Polichinelle", it's a bit on the expensive side (~50 euro/person), but it's high level cuisine, and for a special occasion it's really worth it.

[-] Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee 58 points 5 days ago

Italy is just as bad with this kind of stuff, at least in my experience. I'm not even vegan or vegetarian, but I saw it happen a lot when I was there. They had the same kind of "historical diet" excuse, and I'm sitting here thinking "you fuckers didn't even get tomatoes until the 16th century and now you're acting like you invented them."

I hate food purists so much.

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[-] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 29 points 4 days ago

In Italy, at “L'Isola della Pizza” in Rome, I asked the guy if I could get a pizza with salami, pepperoni, and sausage, and the guy was like “ah, American style!”

[-] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 25 points 4 days ago

Salami, pepperoni and sausage? What makes the first 2 not sausage and what is in your definition pure sausage?

[-] derfunkatron@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago

The honest answer is this: Salami (sliced salami), pepperoni (sliced spicy salami), and sausage (pre-cooked fennel-flavored uncased/crumbled pork sausage).

In the US, “sausage” tends to generically refer to uncured, fresh, or raw sausages, often really meaning “ground meat mixed with herbs and spices sometimes in a tube or casing (but not always).”

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[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 days ago

I'll go ahead and recommend HappyCow for anyone looking for plant-based options outside of their home community.

They have a map where people can suggest places that have vegetarian or vegan options but are mostly omnivorous, or full on vegetarian or vegan restaurants, cafes, grocery stores, food trucks, you name it. I think HappyCow the company also verifies the places people upload so it's somewhat vetted.

I find that starting with HappyCow and then cross-referencing with Google Maps or OSM gives me the best results.

[-] rustyfish@lemmy.world 93 points 5 days ago

We wanted to order pizza and I told my girlfriend (who is Italian) that I might order Pizza Hawaii. Her reflexes kicked in and she bit me.

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 43 points 5 days ago

So tasty that she had to get at the residuals

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[-] vga@sopuli.xyz 8 points 4 days ago

If they don't have oat milk, what should've they said?

[-] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

The French are right. When you have fabled cuisine, lauded all over the world as the gold standard… you get resistant to change. And rightfully so.

Putain, non, is indeed the proper response to said question.

[-] Zacryon@feddit.org 15 points 4 days ago

So France is intolerant towards lactose intolerant people and towards those with specific ethical dietary preferences. And that rightfully so! Be an asshole towards others! It's "in" these days and Paris has been known for being trendy. /s

[-] arc@lemm.ee 29 points 4 days ago

French supermarkets all have very large and wide selection of "free from" style products for allergies and intolerances - gluten free, milk free. Plus vegan and vegetarian. In fact it would put most supermarkets in the US to shame. I also expect that many cafes in Paris cater for people with allergies.

So it's not that. More likely it's a surly waiter, or a tourist asking for something which is not on the menu and being upset by the answer.

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[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 33 points 5 days ago

So I guess, fuck lactose intolerant, amiright?

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 53 points 5 days ago

"If yeu cannot drink le milk, don't order le cafe' with le milk."

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[-] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 15 points 4 days ago

Paradox of tolerance: if we allow the lactose intolerant to exist amongst us, their intolerance will not tolerate our tolerationess. First they came for the milk, and I said nothing for I was not a cow...

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[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago

This never happened. They would have given him a cup of black coffee and said " bro you're in France now"

[-] andybytes@programming.dev 29 points 5 days ago

I love France they take food and tradition seriously while at the same time their own government is afraid off them.

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[-] Teppichbrand@feddit.org 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I was on vacation in Flavigny, an incredibly beautiful small village in Burgundy. I wanted my green beans straight from the garden behind the restaurant without butter and asked to use olive oil instead. The waiter was like "Why!?". It took me five minutes to convince him, he was absolutely unsympathetic and I think I had to pay extra. :)

[-] pseudo@jlai.lu 16 points 4 days ago

Honestly, there is a bit of a pride fight in France between the butter cuisines at the North of the Loire river and the olive cuisines at the South of the Loire. So it might not be that much against the idea of make the dish vegan.

Still that useless, stupid pride. I cook burgeondy dishes with olive oil whenever I feel like it and it is still very good. Not quite the same taste but delicious nevertheless.

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[-] epicstove@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago

Literally going to be flying to Paris today.

Good to know I guess lol.

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[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 17 points 4 days ago

Food snobs might be one of my least favorite types of humans there are. The minute I hear/see someone start talking about how they would never eat that or whatever other bullshit, is almost like I'm hearing them start talking about the good things Trump is doing for everyone. Let's never cross paths again, you're insufferable.

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[-] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 46 points 5 days ago

That is the standard response in France, I'm surprise that waiter was so polite about it.

[-] RizzoTheSmall@lemm.ee 43 points 5 days ago

That's probably the most polite barista in Paris. I'd have expected a tirade, complete with arm waving and rude gestures.

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