Sword of Truth is like the one schlocky fantasy series that I managed not to get into, so I can't compare, but it does not seem like self-awareness ever ended up in Robert Jordan's toolkit.

I can fuck with longer series (Glen Cook's Black Company comes to mind) but it does need to end somewhere.

Fucking preach

I'll give you a better one: Patrick Rothfuss

The guy released name of the wind in 2007 and said all three books of his trilogy are already finished, but then it took four years for the next book to come out in 2011 aaaaaaaaaand......nothing; no third book yet, still working on it, for.....what, 14 years with no release date in sight? The fans started out by saying "what, you want him to release a half good book?! I'd rather he take his time and release it as perfectly as possible than rush it!"

They were saying that for a while, but even now they've lost hope. The reddit for the kingkiller chronicles is hilarious; people keep discussing their theories on the book and every now and again doomposting about how they'll never see the third book. There are people who read the book in high school, then went on to graduate university, get a job, get married and get kids, and are still waiting on the third book.

At least GRRM released more than just two books (in a trilogy remember) and there was an actual TV show for people to watch while they waited; and at least the TV show ends roughly the same way the books will.

I'm torn on grrm. On one hand he is annoying nerds, on the other hand he is an annoying nerd and the whole "He's not your bitch" stuff is hard to swallow give that he's a multimillionaire who keeps lying to people.

Ok but the berserk guy died in his 50s, had several health issues and actually accounted for his demise by training someone and leaving behind instructions. GRRM just stopped writing and is playing jurassic park, while greenlighting the 50th mid TV adaption of book background lore.

I wonder how dbz would have ended. Do you think an even stronger guy shows up and they have to fight him but it's hard cause he's stronger than the last guy.

I think some book fans had dreamed for so long of an adaptation that it was never going to be good enough, but I think what ruined it for me was that it doesn't seem to want to tell the kind of story that the books were telling.

I remember the first book as this pretty simple coming of age, fantasy adventure, but the vibe I got while watching it was that the writers really wanted it to be more like GoT. And that just felt like such a cynical decision to me, like the point was to sell more by making it more like the insanely popular thing that just ended a couple years ago.

(My relationship to the books is a kinda complicated. I was hooked as a teen, but feel a lot more ambivalent after a re-read because of the constant sexist garbage I spotted when I was more mature. Like, I'm kinda pissed that teen me was tricked into thinking the weird gender essentialism was a normal, healthy way for men and women to think about each other and themselves, and every other female character is a sexist stereotype. But the nostalgia is unfortunately pretty strong so idk, I never soured completely on it like I did with Harry Potter for instance, so it must have had some redeeming qualities.)

I haven't watched the show, but from what I can tell there are people who hate the show because they read the books and people who hate the show because they claimed to read the books or completely missed the repeated mentions of Morraine and Suian being "pillow friends" in magic college and think the show went woke.

I think part of the issue is that to faithfully translate the books to a TV show you’re looking at guaranteed 7+ seasons and there’s no way that’s gonna get greenlit off the bat so they had to do some adaptations

Not the person you responded to, but having the read the books the show is enjoyable. It barely tries to adapt anything from the books, but the little easter eggs show at least somebody in the writers room is familiar with the source material.