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[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 51 points 1 month ago

Trump inherited a very healthy economy from Biden. The giant shitstorm that he has created is to blame for everything negative.

It's so extremely moronic that people voted for Trump because they thought he would fix inflation. 🙄

[-] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago
[-] mjhelto@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Thank you! I was saying this back in 2022 when we had "record inflation" but also "record profits." That became too obvious to consumers so we had shrinkflation instead. But still the record profits.

Corps knew the average voter is dumb and used those prices to tank Harris' campaign all because she had the gall to suggest a wealth tax, something they had snuffed out Biden's chances with. Even if the president has no control over prices, people believe they do. It was over for this country the moment we got the Citizen United ruling. Things were being setup to make it easier to get, but that ruling allowed unmitigated greed to influence politics. Been a growing pool of unfathomable wealth and the leverage of that wealth since.

[-] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Oh somethings definitely been inflated though, and that's C-suite exec salaries.

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

joe rogan/shapiro/j peterson/tate/etc all had ahand in turning men/incels into rabid trump supporters. i know someone that was turned just this election as a trump supporters because he binges on UFC/ by extension alot of joe roegan podcasts.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 month ago

People act based on emotions, specifically feeling like they're part of the in-group. You know the old saying "Would you jump off a bridge if your friends all were jumping, too?" Well, the answer is clearly yes. Most people are stupid like that.

I mean, we all are sometimes. It's impossible to know and verify everything so we trust our friends. But for some people it's reached a toxic level of "vaccines are bad" and "banning books is good"

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Trump inherited a very healthy economy from Biden

:-/ He inherited a big stock number from Biden.

But the US economy has been losing steam since the turn of the century. First Enron/Worldcomm, then the Great Recession, then COVID... critical components of the industrial and service sector in the US have been falling apart for decades. Energy, housing, health care, manufacturing, education, agriculture, technology, news media... we've been watching them consolidate ownership and corrode in quality well before Trump or Biden.

It’s so extremely moronic that people voted for Trump

They've been brain blasted with stupid by mass media that's screamed fascist ideology every year of their lives. Trump is a symptom of a public that's been told to venerate wealth and celebrity. Democrats nominating an invalid who dropped out after the first debate certainly didn't help, either.

It's extremely moronic that the election system has been fully captured by crooks and frauds. But the only response ever seems to be "You should have voted for the other guy."

[-] Almacca@aussie.zone 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Goddammit I'm tired of people equating the stock market, or even gdp with 'the economy'.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world -5 points 1 month ago

Everything was going awesome under Biden. The economy was so great. Executives were making more than ever!

[-] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

It is not incorrect to say the economy was doing well, nor is it wrong to say individual purchasing power was not following. “The economy” is not, nor has it ever been, tied to wages. This is a problem, Trump is the opposite of a solution. It’s the equivalent of seeing a bank robbery and nuking the bank.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

That's a completely different matter, the economy was doing fine, but there was inflation in the aftermath of Covid, which was steadily improving.
Choosing a moron narcissist like Trump will only make it worse for average people, so what exactly is your point?
That you are better off with Trump. 🤣🤣🤣

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

not to mention trumps lifelong obsession with using tariffs to solve his problems.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

The economy was indeed going great by most measures. And donvict monkeywrenched almost on day one.

I know it's fashionable among a certain set of people to proclaim everything is awful no matter who is running the country but....it is just not factual.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Poverty is through the roof and the working class is struggling to meet ends.

One of the main reasons Democrats lost was pretending the economy is fine. At least Trump put in the effort to lie about fixing it.

[-] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 4 points 1 month ago

Yep, inequality was up, cost of living was down. The economy was doing fine. What the democrats failed to see is that generally when the economy is doing well, the rising tide lifts all boats. In this instance, with post Covid inflation, the economy was not lifting all boats. It was making the asset rich wealthier while making day to day living harder for all that work for a living.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

No one was pretending; we can all see the same data. Saying the economy was terrible under Biden is just not being realistic.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

It was. It is worse under Trump but it was already terrible.

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social -5 points 1 month ago

True, if very healthy means that the rate of decline for working class Americans was going down. Until that gets aggressively reversed, get ready for more and worse fascists every other election cycle. (For as long as free elections exist.)

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

You are confusing the issue by bringing another issue into it.
That working class is doing worse is another matter, and something that clearly already is getting worse under Trump.
Harris would have been better for working class in every way. And would have been a better platform for promoting more left wing politicians than letting Republicans win.

You are arguing a very strange point, to a degree it's basically nonsensical.

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social -3 points 1 month ago

I'm not comparing Biden to Trump. That is just too easy and kind of masturbatory. Yes, I agree Biden was better than Trump, and Harris would be too. The world is more complicated than "red bad, blue good". The important question is, when Trump is worse, why is he president?

Democrats can continue to be better than Republicans in every way, and it won't matter. Republicans have a narrative and Democrats don't. That is the point that matters.

I knew with absolute certainty that Biden would be a one term president and be replaced by a far worse fascist. I didn't know it would be Trump v2, and I didn't know Biden would far exceed expectations, but I knew he wasn't what we needed to turn off that path.

Democrats can't keep repeating the same mistakes and getting surprised by the results.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I don't see how that is relevant to the fact that Trump inherited a sound economy?

[-] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee -2 points 1 month ago

You claim the economy has nothing to do with the standard of living, inflation, or wages yet keep harping on about "how good the economy" was as if that means anything to anyone outside the top 1%. Why?

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

You claim the economy has nothing to do with the standard of living,

Absolutely not, I have no idea how you got to that conclusion?

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social -3 points 1 month ago

It's relevant to why it didn't matter.

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