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[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 41 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

They're just retvrning to late 1700s racial science. Benjamin Franklin considered the Swedes "swarthy"

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Yes I know this kid was Norwegian but you can't convince me there's a meaningful difference

[-] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 25 points 18 hours ago

Lmfao maybe I've misunderstood the term "swarthy" but thats the last word I'd use to describe Scandinavians

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 48 points 18 hours ago

The full paragraph for your consideration:

Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small. All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so. And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth. I could wish their Numbers were increased. And while we are, as I may call it, Scouring our Planet, by clearing America of Woods, and so making this Side of our Globe reflect a brighter Light to the Eyes of Inhabitants in Mars or Venus, why should we in the Sight of Superior Beings, darken its People? why increase the Sons of Africa, by Planting them in America, where we have so fair an Opportunity, by excluding all Blacks and Tawneys, of increasing the lovely White and Red? But perhaps I am partial to the Complexion of my Country, for such Kind of Partiality is natural to Mankind.

Observations Concerning the Increase of Mankind, Peopling of Countries, etc. / Benjamin Franklin / 1751

[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 4 points 9 hours ago

holy fuckin shit

[-] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 39 points 17 hours ago

Ah so he was only anti-slavery because he was incredibly racist, how am I surprised

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 15 points 14 hours ago

Ben Franklin became an abolitionist after he inherited a few slaves. IIRC he got three house slaves from his aunt or something, but then realized they were people, which left him shook.

"Wait, what do you mean they can talk, have thoughts and emotions, and I have to abuse them to make them obedient? I thought they were like roombas or something!"

--Ben Franklin, 2076 (probably)

[-] shallot@hexbear.net 19 points 17 hours ago
[-] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 19 points 17 hours ago

Also known as the Oregon Rule in this context

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 18 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

increasing the lovely White and Red

While also fetishising native Americans, I guess cat-confused

[-] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 25 points 17 hours ago

I dunno, earlier he described native Americans as "tawny" visible-disgust and wants to "exclude" (read: genocide) them from the continent/hemisphere.

My guess is Red refers to gammon-americans

[-] dougfir@hexbear.net 14 points 17 hours ago

i think that by red here he means sunburned people lol, my guess is that he thought non-brit euros tan too easily to be considered Truly White?

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 14 points 14 hours ago
[-] mechwarrior2@hexbear.net 17 points 14 hours ago

"think of how we look to martians and venusians"

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 19 points 18 hours ago

Yes I know this kid was Norwegian but you can't convince me there's a meaningful difference

Swedes put a cock and balls at the ends of prices in grocery stores

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 13 points 18 hours ago

you can't convince me there's a meaningful difference

Norwegian meatballs are better than Swedish ones

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