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The fact that school pickup lines exist is wild.
It’s always money.
When I first moved to the town I live in now, I was impressed by the all new schools. However I eventually realized they replaced a bunch of older neighborhood schools with a smaller number of bigger schools. They saved money by providing a worse educational experience and making walking less likely.
We walked to my kids elementary school but the town saved money by not plowing the sidewalks in winter, nor forcing residents to. Our walk would require walking on a major street - until my ex went full Karen and made them plow
When my kids got to middle school, we were in “walking” distance so there was no bus. However that was a full mile including crossing a six lane road whose light was always broken, and they didn’t spring for a crossing guard . We ended up choosing a private school in a different town, so there were no buses nor walkability
Regional school districts are now common. More kids goto schools that are not even in their towns
Sometimes, the parents forget to pick up the kids so the teachers get to decide if they leave a child all alone with no help or if the teacher works unpaid over time
Greatest country in the world...
No. Bullshit. When I got cut loose from 70s-80s elementary I was on my fucking own. We could walk, ride, skate, whatever. We did not require a fucking adult to care for us. Bell rings? GTFO! BYE!
Idk maybe teachers these days care idk
oh, they definitely don't care about the kids. They care about getting arrested or sued.
Oh yea dude, people doing thankless low paying jobs that require the same education as jobs that pay much better are sooooo greedy and not at all passionate.
I got screwed at every step of my education. The passion gets ground out of them without them realizing.
Oh no, they're aware. They're especially aware of the clueless people blaming them for not getting blood from stone.
I got lied to about my placement tests for no one's gain. I got stone walled and gaslighted every time I tried improving my situation.
The most passion I ever heard from a teacher the was a rightwing asshole in my civics class when he was complaining about immigrants or welfare queens. My science teacher had to be asked directly about climate change for him to utter his take on that.
If only there were free public transport provided to every student outside a small radius of the school. That would make things so much simpler!
Seriously, I can’t wrap my head around this. Back in my day, pickup lines simply didn’t exist. You walked or you took the bus.
How do you envision kids being picked up after school? Free for all?
Edit: yes I'm doubling down, the people in the replies are idiots.
Obviously walking, biking, or taking the bus is better. Let's assume that covers 95% of children 95% of the time.
Now what?
I was asking what to do WITH CARS that are picking up kids REGARDLESS OF THE FACT THAT ANOTHER KID MIGHT TKAE THE BUS
We envision them taking a bus, walking, or biking home. Not them each getting picked up individually by their parents
Ok that's lovely. And the ones who are being picked up individually by their parents? They don't wait in a line?
Why would they, there's like five of them...
I'm sure you can imagine how if there were more then 5 that could become a problem right?
I suppose you are also capable of imagining schools other than your own?
Meanwhile we have busses that don't always go anywhere close to everyone's houses (or if they do, they may take multiple hours to get there after dropping off a hundred other kids), almost non-existent sidewalks in most suburbs, dumbasses who don't watch for people on bikes, and a court system that's regularly faulted the person on the bike for getting hit.
Greatest country!
Also, at least where I live, you have to have prior permission to ride the bus. Your parent is going to be late picking you up? Guess you're waiting outside cause they didn't pre sign the permission slip!
Well in my country if a parent comes picking up their kids by car they have to park their car and walk to the school to pick their kids up. Waiting in your idling car in front of the school while taking up the lane is not allowed.
I envision walkable communities
Yes that would be lovely, until then though? We don't bother having queues or rules because Reddit doesn't think anyone should have a car?
In my childhood in Germany kids didn't need to be picked up or dropped off, we either walked or took public transit (not dedicated school buses either). As far as I can tell that's still the case where I live. It's a very different urban design that facilitates it, and it results in more human lives in my opinion.
America's choking to death on cars
you're getting downvoted because your numbers are drastically off. I posted a comment below, but in the US 33% of school kids are dropped off/picked up by car. Not 5%. That number jumps to 39% if you're including those driving themselves to school. The average number of kids in school is 512 (in the USA) so that's ~169 kids getting picked up and dropped off each day. Essentially 169 cars, maybe fewer depending on how many ride together. If the number was 5% (it's not) then that would only be ~26 cars. Which is still a line, but not a long one.
You made up a small number to pretend like the problem isn't as bad as it is, and now you're using a strawman to make it seem like we would still need cars for the made up number you gave. The conversation isn't about needing cars, it's about having car lines due to so many cars. If it were actually as small a number as that then no, we wouldn't have lines like this, because that's about the rate that developed european countries have for pickup/dropoff car rates. And those people are the ones telling you it's not a problem in their country.
https://programming.dev/post/39823707/20229448
At no point have I made up any numbers not strawmanned anything in this conversation. Piss off
your words
Just commenting to support and remind you upvote/downvote counts are not representative of correctness.
I'm british and although it's easy easy to believe we all walk and get thr bus, the TRUTH is 6% of our schoolchildren have fully complete end to end transport paid by the state (yes taxis) - this is usually due to negligence of the parents.
There is a real requirement for kids to be picked up by cars and removing that option will only hurt the education of the innocent child.
People on this site are very quick to binary extremism and would immediately struggle if given power of choice over others in real world scenarios.
I'm American and just commented:
When my step-son was in elementary, 20-years ago, anything outside of a bus or parent's car was a non-starter. Fucking pathetic.