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Its amazing how shitty the US is behaving, to the point where the theocratic authoritarian government of Iran is looking like the good guys.
It's an authoritarian theocracy. How the fuck is the bar to be better than them so low, yet they still fuck it up?
Most people don't seem to be able to view both sides as bad. I feel for civilians on all sides, because they are the ones dying and suffering. Caught between murderous assholes.
Feel exactly the same as an american. No one here wanted to get involved. It defies party lines, literally no one wants it. We had the largest protest in our country's history on Saturday and they will do nothing. It wastes billions of our tax dollars while our people can't afford food. Its a couple of dozen people at the absolute top who are pulling the levers here, while ignoring what the people want.
TBH i dont think that those at the top care what you want....
So if you don’t want it, why aren’t you stopping it or trying to overthrow the government? Your biggest protest was 2% or so of the population.
~98% don’t give a shit, they might care about their petrol prices but that’s it. Dead Iranian children and US foreign policy isn’t a deal breaker for them.
fuck off. fuck all the way off until you've walked a mile in our shoes. im not taking this european judgement anymore. come over here and show us how we should be doing it, big boy.
No, it’s your fucking responsibility to fix your nation and you pathetic fucks only give a shit about voting every few years despite the fact that its never once fixed you being the most reprehensible evil nation on the planet.
Go fucking vote harder, maybe you can get another dronebama to bring about fake change as he bombs middle eastern kids.
oh wow i didnt realize it was that easy. my fucking bad.
Youve done jack shit to date, so dont know what you expect to happen. Have some fucking accountability.
okay buddy
Dont murder any more children on your way out American.
I mean, to be fair, France does show us like once every few years
yeah, its not a binary bad/good issue and it never has been. Most issues arent, they are about proportion. Islam is poor on womens and gay rights for example, but that doesnt mean any person murdering muslims is simply off the hook because Israel generally does better on those issues (assuming the woman or gay person is not muslim, in which case israel says to murder them)
People these days who claim that Israeli crimes are fine because Muslim countries have problems are victims or perpetrators of Israeli propoganda, all with the net goal of land theft to build a greater israel. All of the middle east's murders and war crimes are about acquiring oil and land theft. And while there may not be any 100% good guys, there are some really really REALLY bad guys, and western governments are siding with the greatest evils in the region.
I can’t think of anyone who thinks any side is good except the brainless sycophants who believe the lies from trump and his Ministry of Truth. Maybe it’s because of my time on Lemmy, but people seem to understand that Iran is shitty, but not shitty enough to manufacture the excuses to do what trump is doing.
It's almost as though Americans have been brainwashed to believe brown people with the wrong religion are inherently evil. And, as a consequence, they find themselves on the side of a genocidal regime that venerates child murder.
The Iranian government is a bunch of evil assholes, just like the Israeli and US governments. This is a case where the "both sides are equal" is true. It's not long ago that the Iranian government murdered thousands of their citizens and they have been oppressing their people for decades. It's just that they have been attacked by equally evil cunts.
Obviously they're both evil, but calling them "equal" feels like hegemonic propaganda. What makes them equal?
Over the years, Iran has murdered 10s of thousands of people. Over the decades, a good estimate is in the hundreds of thousands of people murdered.
For the American and Israeli death tolls, you're going to have to add two zeroes to those numbers.
The Iranian murders are a rounding error when compared to the death America has been exporting for decades.
It seems like u are forgetting Iran finances a lot of Islamistic terror groups like Hisbollah, Hamas, Huthi, etc. that cause unrest in the whole region.
I'm not forgetting that at all. I have critical support for Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Huthis in their struggle for freedom and territorial integrity against genocidal Israel.
It is Israel's invasions and apartheid that causes unrest in the whole region.
America has funded more terror groups in the region than Iran has.
And in terms of numbers of dead, the number of people killed by Iran's proxies is just another rounding error.
Oh, please. That's nitpicking bullshit. Nobody is trying to downplay the pure evil the US have brought to the world for decades. But acting as if the Iranian regime isn't as bad just because they don't tallied the same numbers is idiotic. I'd argue it's simply a lack of opportunity. All of those fuckers would make the world instantly better by dropping dead. That includes the governments in the US, Israel, Iran, Russia and China at the very least, plus a load of billionaires.
I don't think it's nitpicking at all. There is a serious difference between thousands of dead and millions of dead.
Anyone who ignores that reality is downplaying the evil that the US has wrought.
Thats mostly due to lack of ability, not lack of desire. Do you think that if the socioeconomic positions were reversed, the current Iranian regime would have been any better than the US, or Israel?
You can quibble about death toll amounts and functional ability... but that doesn't change desire.
I do believe thinking in "equal to" terms needlessly belittles the death and destruction perpetrated by these tools... but only as much as quantifying them at all. These people are sick, twisted megalomaniacal dickbags who should be brought low. Sadly that only seems to happen at the whims of other sick, twisted megalomaniacal dickbags.
The best we can do is try and wedge ourselves into the cracks to push them all out of power while trying to stave off the opportunists who try and do the same.
And not bicker amongst ourselves about the level of evilness to quantify each by.
Why does desire matter?
I have a desire to kill billionaires. Does that matter? Should I be tried for murder? No, because I'm not actually going to kill anyone.
Putting violent desire on the same moral plane as actual murder victims is a silly thing to do.
In this hypothetical the details really matter, but in general I think no, the current Iranian regime would not be better.
I think a better hypothetical would be that, if the US never did a coup in Iran and overthrow their democratically elected government, and the socioeconomic positions were reversed, would Iran be better then? I think yes.
Agreed, but what if not stopping the IRGC ends up causing orders-of-magnitude more suffering and deaths? (Tho, is Trump actually unleashing the IRGC because Mojtaba gives them free-er reign than Ali; and causing some Iranians to actually side with their own psychotic countrymen against the attacking foreigners? If yes, then US voters may be more harmful than Iran.)
Would Hamas not be vastly worse than Israel if they had the same military power as Israel?
ISIS?
Shouldn't intent count to prevent access to biological and nuclear weapons?
hey someone gets it
The need to paint everything in broad brush "Good v Evil" is what legitimizes these wars to begin with. The idea that you're doing anyone a favor by bombing them should be ridiculous on its face. But we consistently build up this narrative of the Just War, we declare everyone we don't like is Hitler, and then we throw more and more of the planet into the "Hitler" bucket when they aren't along for the ride once the bombs land.
When you kill off all the nice guys, what you're left with are the assholes. The Iranian government is the end result of this multi-generational culling process. The American and Israeli governments are, too.
Absolutely not. The Iranian regime has a lot of blood on its hands, both at home and abroad, but it doesn't even come close to the sheer amount of evil exercised by Israel and America. The worst thing the Ayatollah regime has ever done was support the Assad regime during the Syrian Civil War. That's obviously evil as fuck, but it looks downright cute compared to Israel's literal genocide and America's War on Terror (let alone its even worse historical crimes). In this class of absurd evil, killing a few thousand people is literally a rounding error.
Iran murdered Thousands oft protestes a few months ago.
We all know that they don't care about their people.
proof?
whenever you repeat baseless lies, remember to append at least two sources to it.
Whenever you don't want to accept the truth, remember to shut up please.
Here, pick one... I assume, you will declare all of them as not credible or some similar bullshit...
https://www.iranintl.com/en/202601255198
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/jan/27/iran-protests-death-toll-disappeared-bodies-mass-burials-30000-dead
https://abcnews.com/International/iranians-detail-deadly-crackdown-after-internet-blockade/story?id=129536428
https://time.com/7345347/iran-protests-death-toll-estimate-thousands/
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0r4957rq8ro
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/1/21/at-least-3117-people-killed-during-iran-protests-state-media-reports
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/17/world/middleeast/iran-memorials-protesters-crackdown.html
If you don't want to accept that your government lies and you blindly believe it, remember to shut up please.
You preemptively dismissed the notion that they are not credible as bullshit, do better. That's very intellectually dishonest.
Your first source, claiming the ridiculous 36,500 figure, is a London based Saudi funded progranda channel.
The second highest figure, repeated by all the other western media, comes from HRANA, which is US based with undisclosed funding. Their parent organization clearly says on their website that they receive funding from CIA-linked National Endowment for Democracy
https://www.hra-iran.org/introduction/
Totally trustworthy.
You are a troll and probably don't even knew what my government is. I could give you the same news from European countries, but you wouldn't accept that either.
You'd accept the Iranian newspaper that would not even mention the protests at all.
So sad that people like you prioritize their agenda over rationalism...
The Iranian government openly admitted to over 3k deaths, what are you suggesting?
Indeed very sad.
Great. That matches my first comment:
But your first source is a Saudi funded progranda channel claiming over 30k. You are war mongering, whether you like to admit it or not.
They don't claim to have "murdered" thousands, they claim under 3,000 civilians AND security personnel were killed, leaving 690 of the dead labeled as Israeli/US funded terrorists or armed instigators.
And the US/Israel has been openly talking about installing the son of last puppet removed in the last revolution, and the CIA has a reputation for doing exactly that, so it's not ridiculous.
You don't have to trust Iran, and I'm not defending the Iranian government, but stop bending backwards to accept the imperialist US narrative.
If we aggregate the information, we will probably reach a range that this Wikipedia article mentions of 7k to 36k deaths.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iran_massacres
Calling protesters "agents from other countries" is the 1x1 of authoritarian regimes BTW. Belarus, Russian, Iran... They all do that all the time.
They're a .mler — you didn't provide sources that were Russian or Chinese so lol get wrecked.
The bar was on the ground, and magats brought a backhoe.
It's not "shitty", that's just pure evil. And then the double tap. US is just pathetic on a whole another scale.
And behaving? It's not the first time they've done something like this.
I hope the world never lets them forget all the atrocities they've caused but we know how the pitty patty moral astroturfing, victim blaming, strawman, narcissism, ignorance that appears every time defending it.
and doing it at the behest of israel to, whom have been salivating on attacking IRAN directly for decades.
We watched with disgust as Israel genocided Gaza, but Trump watched it and said "My turn!"
US is much more involved in the former, and same w Israel in the latter. They aren't exactly taking turns.