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Honestly, there aren't many good ML podcasts, I feel, or even leftist ones...
Not many... but I have recently found three in particular that I enjoy, in case anyone wants suggestions.
If you speak portuguese or want to read (the subtitles are mostly ok), theres a weekly political analisys by a brazilian communist party. Its the best thing i find online in pt, es, en and it. If you want i can send you the link
Brazil has really good communists nowadays 🙌
Most communist parties in Brasil are alligned with imperialism, in part or as a whole. But PCO is grassroots communism, no academic bullshit or consessions for the burguersie. They talk to the people, defend palestine in actions (not just Internet posting), defend the working class etc etc. Lenin would be overhelmed with proud
They're reactionary trots and politically irrelevant. UP and the PCB are the two decent ones.
Pcb is undergoing a major crisis. It will probably break at some point in the nearish future. It was an important party in the past, but for reasons i dont know they became an academic party and non-revolutionary to put it lighly. At some point one of their leaders (Mauro Iasi iirc) even suggested taking "leninist" out of their program
Up i really dont know much about
Your analysis is based on a glance at a site lmao.
UP is the electoral arm of another larger, radical organization. The point of it is to act as a tool for taking radical rhetoric into the elections and recruiting for the other, more openly ML and revolution-focused groups. It is not a whole thing in itself, just a tool of another larger movement.
It is still a relatively new organization, though. They are ever more consistently showing up amongst organizers of events and lower level institutions, like universities.
Yeah, don't know what happened to UP's website, it looks like there are mentions of Palestine in it, but because it's down I can't see what it was. Here's a news article about them being pro-Palestine and against Israeli occupation.
There's also this tweet from a thread they did.
I don't get your point about electoralism. As far as I know, they are a revolutionary party. Disputing elections doesn't mean they believe in the system. If anything it can serve as propaganda.
Neither of them sided with Hamas afaik, but if they did its a good surprise
I definitely don’t mean the “communist” parties. But PCO is… kinda Trotskyist no? And kinda conservative, anti-LGBTQ movements and such.
They are not kinda trotskyists, they are trotskyists. They are not conservadores, they are the most progressive party in the country. They are for right to abortion, legalization of drugs, same sex marriage, end of exploitation of woman, etc etc. What they are against (and thats where people get those ideas you pointed) is censorship, and in Brasil you have lots (and if you count the famous ones, all of them) of indentitarian movements infiltrated by CIA agenda points, asking to sendo people to jail amd censor them. A good example is the minister for human rights: Police gets into the slums and kill 30 people (guess their color) he says nothing, but some guy calls a fuebol player a monkey and he asks for the guy to be imprisioned. They defended gay people way before it was cooler, way before CIA took the movement over. Theres a particular case when a researcher found out that a very important person from the black movement (from the colonization time) was gay. People from the Black movement got pissed and asked for him to be censored and even beaten. PCO didnt agree with his thesis but they defended his right to say that and offered to shield him from the aggressions. The point is, their agenda is to bring forth communism, and it includes freedom of speech. When people ask them to betray this objective in order to support some identitarian movement thats asking for censorship, they say no. Does that make them anti lgbt?
Yeah, get out with this shit. Stop trying to push PCO here.
Lots of accusations here and your use of "identitarian movements" and "freedom of speech" with the example you used speaks volumes already. Also what's with the "defending gay people way before it was cooler", and "before it was infiltrated by CIA agenda points? This all just smells extremely reactionary.
Freedom of Speech is actually an important freedom and a big blind spot of western leftists is mocking it because they associate it with Musk and Libertarian types in their local areas, but in fact there are many reactionary states and bourgeois dictatorships that harshly censor communists. You have never experienced that level of oppression so it all seems like a joke to you, but go live in Argentina or Egypt or Saudi Arabia for a couple years and maybe you'll wise up
I should have been more specific and said freedom of speech absolutism. I know being able to speak freely like that is important, but I'm purposefully criticizing PCO here. The same party that defended Monark, a famous Brazilian Youtuber and Podcaster, when he said that there should be a Nazi party in Brazil, not only that but the same party that criticized a samba school for defiling the image of a colonizer, saying that what they did is wrong and against our history.
Defend your point, dont try to censor me lol
Im not inside your head, point out what you think
Before it was cool = before usa capitalism decided it was profitable
How so?
Literally no one is "censoring" you, get a grip. I'm telling you to stop pushing this bullshit, that's all.
Already did on my last comment.
You're literally tossing everything as "identity politics" and comes claiming "free speech absolutism" and that other parties are aligned with imperialism and needs me to point out how that is reactionary? Really? Your condescending way of referring to LGBT people, Black and Indigenous people, Feminists and everyone else you might deem fit into the "identity movement" list, is not enough?
All you're doing here is tossing all the work and struggle of oppressed people into a nice box that you don't like just to diminish it, all while not backing any single claim you made.
And the free speech part, like come on, you literally admitted the party stance was to side with the homophobe because "muh freeze peach", are you for real?
If you think its bullshit, you are free to think so. Now if you ask me to stop talking about it, no
If you think you made your point, i did not understand it.
Movements based on identity are identity movements, im sorry to tell you that. Thats not criticism, thats caracterization. If you think its bad to be called identitary, then its on you. Marxism is about class and class strugle, wich is based on economic positions. They are different things. Sometimes they agree, sometimes they dont
And you didnt read it correctly, or maybe i didnt made it clear enough. PCO disagreed with the researcher, who said Zumbi de Palmares was gay, but stood for his right to say so, even defending him when the black movement wanted him (the researcher) cersored
Still no proof of any of the claims you made, no matter how bold they were.
My point is that you are are being reactionary, which I stated multiple times already.
Here you come with this bullshit again. What "identity"? It's always you PCO people that comes with this claim, again diminishing the struggle of the oppressed throughout the decades. You want to oppose the rampant liberalism present in LGBT, Black and Feminist movements? Sure, that's great, but don't fucking belittle people and the movements while you're at it.
And what class do the majority of LGBT, Black and Women are again? What do they fight for, and what discrimination do they face and from whom? Their fight is part of the fight of the proletariat and should be front and center to the liberation of the working class.
You didn't make it clear enough on the original comment. It made it seem like PCO stood by the homophobic guy. But since I couldn't find anything about any of this, besides the claim that Zumbi could be gay, what are the sources for your claims? You're painting the whole black movement as bad with the way you are wording this.
Can you say exactly what you want proof for?
You think its reactionary, I dont. Im not reactionary for disagreeing with what you think.
So you agree with pco
????????????
I do agree that most of their fight goes hand in hand with proletarian causes, but no marxist in the world would claim thats the front and center of the cause. Marxists fight for the dictatorship of the proletariat, thats it
Im not painting anything. They were homophobic there. Does that make the "whole Black movement" bad? I dont think so. Most people are conservative, and even when someone is progressive in one area that doesnt make them immune to being reactionary in another. The world is full of contradictions.
Literally any claim that you made in your comments in this thread, which you made a bunch of.
You're just being purposefully obtuse, I already said that by treating all these oppressed people's struggles as "identity movements" you're are belittling and being disrespectful, but you clearly don't care. By labeling these struggles as "identity driven" you are using the same wording and tactics the alt right uses.
I didn't say it IS front and center, but that it SHOULD be at the forefront for any serious working class movement. Women, Black, LGBT and Indigenous liberation should be a focal point of any mass movement. There's is literally no dissociating one from the other, these fights all go hand in hand when fighting capitalism and imperialism. But I'm repeating myself yet again.
Yes, you are. The way you are wording this, which you just did again, is that the whole black movement is being homophobic, if that was not your intention, you should have pointed out where it started, by whom, and how the broad movement talked about it and approached it. I asked for proof and you provided none yet again.
This is gonna be my last comment here in this thread, I'm done having to repeat myself.
I disagree with you mostly. But as you stated, theres no point going on with this. I will just point one thing out.
Thats your opinion and thats great. But the point of any marxist movement is to expropriate the means of production from the burguesie and build the dictatorship of the proletariat. You dont have to agree with that, fight for whatever you belive. But dont say that your opinion is what the marxist movement should do.
Extremely funny how you hyper focus on these end goals while ignoring the countless amount of theory written by actual revolutionaries on how to progress towards these goals. Do you think communist insurgencies against occupiers happened purely out of poverty? You don’t think they took advantage of the power dynamic imbalance between the nationalities to mobilize the oppressed to kill in a war?
Do you think Hamas is killing Israeli occupiers because they care about the dictatorship of the proletariat and the means of production? No. They’re killing Israelis because they’re committing genocide against Palestinians. Everything else comes later, if at all. They call for Muslims and Arabs and anyone middle eastern to support them. They’re literally an Islamist militia which entails calling Muslims worldwide to physically fight against the enemy. And yet you support their struggle, but you delegitimize Brazilian minorities’ struggles if it’s not purely class. Why? Is it not identity politics? Is it not effective mobilization? Are Muslims the only people who are able to wield identity politics for their needs, or do you just not want to admit you don’t care much about the politics of minorities in your country?
Saying "shut up" isn't censorship.
Send me the link, though I probably won't be able to understand it.
Still, I can maybe recommend it to other people.
https://youtube.com/@pco29?si=hDesSb-CLQkwtHyV
MONDAYS - International analysis (with a nationalist Navy Commander from Br)
TUESDAYS - Minor political analysis (BR + worldwide)
THURSDAY - Marxist theorical classes (today was about the development of the russian revolution early years and its ideological consequences)
SATURDAY - Major political analysis (BR + worldwide)
Id just like to add that they recently visited Hamas in Catar for a series of interviews. They are serious about what they do
Amazing!
Thank you!
Sure, I'm interested
N O I C E
Okay, so:
The Black Casebook
Collective Action Comics
We're Not So Different
Aaaaaannnd that's about it. Communist podcasts. There you go.
All on Spotify or Google Podcasts.
Or on most podcast platforms, as far as I can tell.
Oh yeah, and I'll throw in Against Japanism. Kinda ultra that one, but actually new information and new topics, I feel.
Plus, ProlesPod is coming back soon and they have their "a re-introduction" episode.
But eh, I'm trying to promote obscure or small-time podcasters, not podcasters that will probably strike it big (and strike it big again, in the case of ProlesPod).
I have a list somewhere too.
I recently started listening to WNSD, and while I knew the hosts are unapologetically leftists, I didn't know they were MLs. I'm enjoying the hell out of it, so that's a fun surprise.
They're on Hexbear, I believe.
No way! If you're reading this, hi Dr. Janega and Luke! Love the show
Yeah, I think at least Luke is on here, but I could be wrong.
Podcasting Is Praxis is not a big brain theory podcast but they're by far the best and funniest current events/general banter comedy podcast I've come across. I'm pretty sure they're mostly ML, they certainly channel a lot of the same energy as Hexbear does.
A People's History Of Ideas tells the history of the Chinese revolution in extreme detail and the guy doing it is a Maoist. If you are the kind of person who like to know the minutuae of how safehouses were operated in Shanghai in the 1920's this is the place to look. Interspersed with the revolutionary history episodes is the occasional episode on Gonzaloism or oral histories from people who visited China during the Mao years. It's good albeit a little dry.
what criteria do you use to define "good"?
One that doesn't really retread old ground or talk about the same stuff the other ones are talking about.
Also, one that isn't just back-slapping their guests and never questioning them. Or simply agreeing with other leftists. Ones that promote debate and new ideas.
Among other things, of course.
I don't like the guests on the Deprogram and Rev Left Radio has gone downhill, as a Russian friend told me, so I steer clear from the "popular" or "top" ones nowadays.
What do you mean by this? Why would a 'Russian friend' tell you about rev left instead of you just listening to it? Are you just seething because Brett has the correct anti-imperialist line?
that's 100% it Pluto is basically an American lib the way he talks about Russia
Yes, everyone who has a remotely different opinion from you is mad and seething regardless of how they’re presenting said opinion.