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Alyssa Carson (born March 10, 2001) is an American space enthusiast who has attended numerous space camps and has visited every NASA visitor center.[1] She has been profiled by a variety of news outlets, public interest publications, and interview shows as an unofficial astronaut-in-training.

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While frequently described by the media as an "astronaut in training",[20][10] Carson is not affiliated with any national space program.[21][22] NASA has publicly stated that the organization "has no official ties to Alyssa Carson",[22] and separately that "although Ms. Carson uses ‘NASA' in her website name and Twitter and Instagram handles, we’re not affiliated at all."[23] In 2019 Newsweek corrected a headline that had implied that Carson's training was affiliated with NASA.[9] Snopes.com also has dedicated a page to clarify such claims, which says: "Carson is not in training with—or being prepped by—NASA to become an astronaut, or to take part in the first human mission to Mars."[24]

I need one of these for myself. I know hella rocks and will probably be the lead of the smithsonian or something if I become a geologist someday.

edit: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alyssa-carson-87b874152 Can someone with a Linkedin account confirm that she doesn't actually have any work experience whatsoever? I think that part might be hidden for me but I only see bullshit awards, her own org about wanting to be an astronaut when she grows up, volunteering one day per year at space camp, and inspirational articles from 2018 about how she wants to be an astronaut when she wants to grow up. There's no "internship at [legitimate company]" which is a required class for any BS degree at my university.

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[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 40 points 6 months ago

As of 2023, she received her bachelor's degree in astrobiology from the Florida Institute of Technology.

wtf...

What is an astrobiology degree?

To our knowledge, Florida Tech’s astrobiology degree program is the first and only undergraduate astrobiology program in the country.

yeah, no shit it is. FIT is like twice the size of my high school, so i'm guessing the entire cohort+alumni is like 3 people. i would feel so weird applying for jobs after that. like, "yeah, i can totally be a lab tech at your nutrition testing company. i studied Astrobiology at the Beverly Crusher College of Medicine and did my research project on ET's metabolism and gut flora response to Elliot's Reece's Pieces." i thought the whole point of an undergraduate/bachelor's was to general to a larger field or broadly interdisciplinary. like, kudos for knowing what you want to do since the age of 6, but goddam.

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 37 points 6 months ago

Biological functions in low gravity senarios. There is a practical aspect of that in monitoring humans in space and also doing biological expirements and searching for life in out of Earth environments. Watch China for that space since this country ruined the Shuttle program and Mr. Most Divorced Disowned Dad is more obsessed with curating the next generation of fascists and locking us in a Kessler Syndrome than evolving humanity now.

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

It would be extremely funny if he tried to actually launch a Mars mission and just after clearing the atmosphere his ship gets shotgunned by a cloud of his stupid little satellites.

[-] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 32 points 6 months ago

It's possible that it's interdisciplinary program, like a planetary science and biochem double major. My school had a lot of really unfortunately named "specialties", which involved both a lot of breadth and depth in two fields, but because of the naming sounded like weirdly specialized programs. But also graduates are encouraged to list the degree as a major + minor to employers.

[-] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 26 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This is basically it. Astrobiology is actually a course in a fair few places, a friend of mine has a degree in it, and you're right, it's relatively new and varied, but it's basically planetary science, biochem and environmental sciences. No it is not drawing theoretical aliens.

[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago

yeah, there seems to be a lot of strange moves in undergraduate program development with creating "grabby" program titles that sound cool and have some curious career tracking baked in, because we all know the most important part of a program title is being able to rapidly and cleanly articulate what your career will look like to your parents and what sort of salary it will command.

The average Astrobiologist in the US makes $143,786.

[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago
[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago

well, and i imagine >9 of those 10 have graduate degrees too.

[-] windowlicker@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

it is absolutely wild that a whole bachelor's degree exists entirely on a hypothetical, the existence of life outside earth, with very little to even work on. maybe i'm just being a hater, and i do love hypothesizing about potential life in space, but genuinely what is there to study or do as an astrobiologist aside from spectroscopic analysis of exoplanetary atmospheres that is already being done by many astronomers. all we really have is a few planets where there MIGHT be some molecules that usually originate from from life on earth specifically and the previous existence of water on mars, of which neither are conclusive of anything. for other natural sciences such as biology, physics, or chemistry, there will never not be a time when the laws of physics (on earth, at least) stop applying suddenly, or the laws that govern chemical reactions, or the functioning of life because these are tangible things you can observe. even specific sub-fields within them are still studying specific phenomena we know happen. what is there to observe for something that we know very little about and probably will always know very little about.

[-] quarrk@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago

I have a degree in astrophysics, so here’s my perspective.

Whether, and how much, a field is speculative has little scientific or practical bearing on whether it is worth studying. I’ll throw out the obvious reason first: you don’t know what you don’t know. Much of science lies in pushing boundaries even when there is no specific discovery in mind.

Astronomy as a whole has always been challenged for relevance to “real” studies here on Earth. Many people think that astronomy is a waste of money.

Was it pointless to send multiple spacecraft, including COBE, WMAP, and Planck, just to figure out how uniform is the cosmic microwave background radiation? Or to devote similar efforts to researching the flatness of the Universe? To image black holes and measure gravitational waves? These things are about as speculative as astrobiology, but they sound more “serious.”

I believe all of these things are important to study because the laws of physics are, as far as we can tell, the same everywhere in the universe. Therefore space is simply another laboratory in which we study the Earth; an invaluable one, actually, because there is far more exotic physics happening around galactic nuclei (for example) than we can ever come close to simulating in a laboratory on Earth.

Astrobiology is not merely looking at spectra. The spectra are only an indirect measurement. The difficulty lies in understanding the non-biological processes which could produce a signature that otherwise appears biological in origin. Until you’re holding a little green alien, you can’t really prove that a measurement is definitely life, but with solid science you can be pretty damn sure that there is no other explanation.

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago

I saw one space chemist describe their job as discovering everything that isn't alien life. We have a recent, huge, and growing pile of exoplanet data which is going to show different chemical signatures. There's practical scientific value in finding the interesting candidates and for narrowing down what could make those compounds under wildly different conditions that an Earth-centric chemist isn't specially trained in. I think that apart from the microgravity effects on earth biology studies, there's value in understanding how those different conditions would or wouldn't allow for an atmospheric signature to be biological. If it's something benign we didn't rule out, that's a 10+ year space mission or telescope time wasted when we could have been replicating those chemical conditions in labs here.

[-] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago

Broad and interdisciplinary should be the goal. But I think we're moving toward a world where people will need a B.S. in HR to get an entry level job in human resources.

[-] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You're being overly optimistic, pretty sure HR jobs have needed a post-grad certificate + work experience for a while now. One of the reasons there were so many recruiters for a while is people viewed working as a recruiter as a way to get an entry level job in HR.

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