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[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 43 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Whenever abbreviations don't make sense, you can safely assume it's Latin.

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

This is medicine in a nutshell too. And not just abbreviations, but acronyms... for words in a language that no one uses. I hate it.

[-] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 months ago

I literally took Latin in college for the sole reason that Latin is used in super stupid ways, and my science communication degree would be worth less without that knowledge. Because Latin-base is fully half of the science terms you need to know.

And my college was super on board with my reasoning. Wish I’d also had the mental capacity for ancient Greek, because that’s literally the other half of naming schemes.

Ridiculous.

I’m super into modern scientists giving shit pop culture names. Because holy shit is it ever more memorable than some random Latin/greek bullshit.

[-] oo1@lemmings.world 4 points 4 months ago

Strange that 'classics' are taught mostly in the poshest schools. It's rare for elites to want to preserve any power they have and make it inaccessible to oiks. /s

[-] Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Well, what other language should be used? Latin is the language of science because there's no way we'd ever agree on which alive language to use.

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

I didn't say it was a bad system or that we need to change it: I said I hate it.

[-] Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Fair enough haha

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Esperanto, the second language of the international laborer /hj

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I unironically kinda wish that would take off. The concept of a super simple bridge language is great.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Um English? It's the international language and language of research, though some may not like hearing that.

[-] Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

English is only the lingua franca for now, but that, as well as the English language, will inevitably change.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

English might change drastically so much that we change words entirely (so old abbreviations don't match new words), so let's just go with the guaranteed dead language where abbreviations already don't line up. Yeah I can't agree with that logic.

[-] zarathustrad@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

The whole point of using a "dead" language is that languages change over time and scientists once had the foresight to attempt making their works more universal over both multiple languages and over time.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Let's rename everything every century or so. It should make things easier.

[-] oo1@lemmings.world 4 points 4 months ago
[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Couple common ones... there are hundreds of these.

Acronym - Full Latin - English

PRN - pro re nata - as needed

NPO - nil per os - nothing my mouth

AC - ante cibum - before eating

OD - oculus dexter - right eye

OS - oculus sinister - left eye

Q8H - quaque octava hora - every 8 hours

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Hey I can finally ask, how much of medical terminology is Greek?

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Latin is prelevant but many anatomy terms and conditions are Greek because a lot of the literature first describing conditions and early anatomy was Greek. Heme for blood, dermis for skin, cholecyst(bile bladder) for gallbladder, cyst for bladder ect. Anatomy itself is a word that comes from Greek.

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Not really any that I'm aware of, but I'm a tech, so my insight is only surface level. Grain of salt.

[-] Rubanski@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

What about tungsten or sodium?

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Apparently tungsten is also known as Wolfram, so that's the W. Sodium Na is from neo-latin.

[-] pumpkinseedoil@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago

It's Na from Natrium (I have no idea why you even call it Sodium in English)

[-] grandkaiser@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

It's called Sodium in English because an English chemist Sir Humphrey Davy discovered it & named it "Sodium" He was able to isolate it via separation of caustic soda (sodium hydroxide) and therefore named it after the caustic soda "soda-ium". A few years later, a German chemist (Ludwig Wilhelm Gilbert) was able to isolate it and named it "Natronium" Just under a decade later, Jöns Jacob Berzelius coined the term "Natrium" as he felt the name "Natronium" was too lengthy to catch on.

As to exactly why the earlier term was not respected is likely due to nationalism. During the earlier 1800's a lot of countries were desperately trying to take claim for various rapid advancements in chemistry, physics, mathematics, and medicine. Getting to have the name that "your guy" coined was largely bent around national pride.

[-] pumpkinseedoil@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

Ty. So the question for its rightful name simply depends on whether you give it to the one who discovered it or the one who isolated it, interesting.

I'll skip that discussion and just say Natrium sounds better

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