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The bourgeoisie get to put their past Ls behind them far too easily (hexbear.net)

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[-] PKMKII@hexbear.net 34 points 4 months ago

Interesting that none of them picked the sitting president. Not sure if that was due to their dislike of the New Deal, or if that’s a reflection of a pre-WWII American view that their leaders play second fiddle to Europe.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 40 points 4 months ago

As much as I believe universities are great and important things, pretty much before the 1950s the majority of colleges were just for lack of better term, “practice country clubs” that doubled as training for the idle rich to learn to be porks.

So FDR, who still had problems, was utterly profane to porky and the piglets in university at the time. I wouldn’t be surprised if Adolf Hitler was the most beloved person among (white) Amerikkkans until the US entered WW2.

[-] PKMKII@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago

Amerikkkans memory holed that shit real quick once Germany declared war.

[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

...It also includes a piece of a speech by Fritz Kuhn, the leader of the German-American Bund (the American wing of the Nazi party), in which he rails against the "Jewish-controlled media" and says it’s time to return United States to the white Christians who he says founded the nation. At one point during the speech a 26-year-old plumber’s helper from Brooklyn named Isadore Greenbaum charges the stage and yells, "Down with Hitler."

He is beaten up by Bund guards and his clothing is ripped off in the attack before New York police officers arrest him for disorderly conduct. (In court that night, the judge said, “Don’t you realize that innocent people might have been killed?” Greenbaum responded, “Don’t you realize that plenty of Jewish people might be killed with their persecution up there?”)

I feel like it would be too easy to draw a parallel here to a CURRENT, ongoing genocide and the way protestors trying to stop the current murder machine are treated...

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago

Anti-fascists were straight-up shooting and stabbing nazis in the Germany at that time because they knew what was going to happen. Of course, liberals denounced them for being "violent commie extremists."

I'm preaching to the choir. You'd think libs would have learned after WWII to trust the left when it comes to fighting fascists. They either don't think fascists are fascists or they're fascists themselves.

[-] casskaydee@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago

"instructions unclear, ended up trusting fascists when it comes to fighting the left" - the average liberal

[-] MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 4 months ago

I'm pretty sure that much of the most progressive stuff in The New Deal were concessions made to labor unions. FDR didn't do it from the kindness of his heart.

[-] cricbuzz@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago

You're exactly right. This is outlined in "The S Word" by John Nichols. He was pressured by ardent socialists/communists and actually LISTENED to that pressure. Leading to setting up some of the most important safety nets in US history.

Imagine if socialists/communists ACTUALLY had a chance to take the reins and go further

[-] spectre@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago

Sure but just like when a liberal makes a mild concession to progressives nowadays the hogs bray "communist communist!" all about it and that's what's being polled here