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He will not feel any pressure to release his. He won't do it. Everyone knows he won't.
But his repeated bullshit excuses will be fun to watch.
This right here is the problem, why he gets favorable treatment by the media, why he's the Republican figurehead. He's "fun to watch".
Here's what will happen: Harris will release her clean bill of health, he'll deny their veracity, he may then make an unsubstantiated boast about his own health, he may then also call into question the qualifications of Harris' doctor, he may then close with some sort of jingoistic non sequitur, or some nugget of misogyny. He will do these things in an almost robotically simplified way, that is at once instantly digestible and yet difficult to directly quote without editing. If anything he says proves the least bit problematic, Steven Cheung will claim that this editing proves malicious intent by the media, and that Trump was unfairly taken out of context. Meanwhile his thralls will either ignore the whole interval, or accept Cheung's version of events and redouble their support of a man who is not only unqualified, but it's actively a national liability. This will register surprise, shock, anger, any number of strong emotions, and viewership/readership will keep coming back, generating impressions and ad revenue, desperate for the new episode, to see what happens next, as if it were a show on HBO and not real life.
He's "fun to watch" when he's being a dipshit. Not when he's being a Nazi.
But I would like to borrow your crystal ball for next week's Lotto numbers please.
Even when he's "a dipshit", the attention he garners legitamizes him as a candidate. Attention is the whole game. The Michael Jordan of "no bad publicity." The entertainment you describe is just a different form of rubbernecking. And Trump attracts droves by regularly providing a new car accident to gawk at; and doing so on a fairly steady, news cycle friendly basis.
You can't legitimize a legitimate candidate any more than he's already been legitimized.
Expecting people to never talk about one of the two people who have a chance at being president next year within a month of election day is a bit silly.
I don't take exception to talking about him. I take exception with people being entertained by him. Even as schadenfreude.
The media legitimizes him by summerizing his statements. By hypothesizing what he meant instead of what he actually said. They give him the benefit of the doubt, time and time again. Age is no longer an issue, grabbing unconcenting women by their genetials is no longer an issue, felonies are no longer an issue, debt and taxes are no longer an issue, anything that has become boring is no longer an issue. It's all about new new new.
They push this bilge about fairness to justify giving him a platform, but really they just need a heel for their wrestling spectacle.
He didn't falsely claim, he lied. He didn't accidentally reference facist rhetoric, he used it. He doesn't deny climate change, he profits from it. Etc.
Pointing at him and laughing is how everyone figured out the emperor had no clothes.
In the Emperor's New Clothes, it is the emperor, his men, and the townspeople who are being conned by the weavers. In real life the mainstream media is more like the emperor, we're the townspeople, and Trump and Cheung are the weavers, who in the tale successfully escape with the money for the nonexistent clothes.
You're right. They should just cancel the Daily Show. All it does is help Trump. Laughing at bad people helps them.
If those people cultivate a posture of victimhood as a tool for propoganda, then yes, pointing and laughing at them justifies their outrage and is a help to them.
I will quote from a comment I made a while back on a different thread:
The conservatives have weaponized fact checking. Every time we slam dunk on them, they just get angrier and burrow deeper into denial.
It may feel good to laugh at them, lord knows they deserve it, but it is not effective in combating them. First and foremost it is most successful as entertainment, and entertainment is only as successful as it is profitable. And this ecosystem is dependent on Trump being relevant. He is a cash cow, a hideous, demonic cow, but the left and right alike are at his greasy teats just the same.
I'll even go one further and say that the catharsis we feel from watching a comedian humilate Trump releases pressure in the audience that might otherwise build into an actual revolution. If we can't tune in to our favorite funny man and get some appeasement about the sickening cognitive dissonance we suffer through day after day, we may be forced to direct that energy outward and actually get into the streets. In short, humor may be pacifying an otherwise powerful people.
Yep. Definitely cancel The Daily Show. It's a bad, bad thing.
Also Seth Meyers and Stephen Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel.
Oh, and Have I Got News for You on CNN. That's a new one, but it's funny.
And Last Week Tonight With John Oliver. He talks about Trump every week and makes fun of him.
Wow, so many shows that help Trump, am I right? We need to get these people off our TVs and return to real comedy! Like Perfect Strangers and ALF! Remember ALF?
Believe what you want. But while you're watching six TV shows, conservatives are positioning themselves for an actual coup.
Oh! All that stand-up comedy too! Gotta get rid of all those stand-up comedians. We need good ones like we used to have like George Carl- no wait, he talked about Republican presidential candidates. I know, Richard Pry- no, he did too... Oh! Henny Youngman! Hilarious stuff! "Take my wife... please!"
You're right, a startling number of political comedians seem to betray progressive ideologies and become mysteriously conservative. Must be a coincidence.
Yes, the famously conservative Jon Stewart, John Oliver, Seth Meyers, Stephen Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel. All of them known arch-conservative Trump supporters.
Not to mention, as I said, George Carlin and Richard Pryor- they were huge Republicans before they died.
You've figured it all out.
Humor is a powerful rhetorical weapon. I wouldn't discount it.
But how little his fans care that he's full of bullshit will be terrifying to watch.
His fans are, at most, 30% of the country. It's the rest of the voters I worry about.
They weren't that fun the first time.
I guess I take my humor out of this election where I can.
Oh man, same. It’s one thing to constantly hear about various privileged and lucky shitheads trying to make the world worse for others. It’s another thing entirely when the universe has seen fit to give such a bad one so much influence.
Much like with the pandemic, I try to at least appreciate when I am living through something historic. And when it is “future history students will not believe this is real” level stupidity, dark humor is waiting right there.
I can’t think of many things I find more awful than listening to that man speak. My obstructive sleep apnea, maybe. Maybe.
"As the healthiest person… as the healthiest American… there is no one healthier than me… as the healthiest, there is no need to release these… my medical records are stellar… so perfect. I'm great. These records are so great, there you have it. I'm perfectly… yes… perfectly healthy." - Trump
Well, I tried. I feel that it lacks some attacks to their opponent, but I can't dumb myself down enough to do more than that.
Here I'll help
"The best records... great memory.. the best... doctors claim to not have seen a memory like mine... beyond measure... they can't even measure it ladies and gentlemen.. even better than my opponent Sleepy Joe... I defeated Joe in 2020... complete landslide... I'll beat him in 2024."
still too coherent
"You know they asked me to— my medical records... they asked for them. The medical records. Can you believe this? The doctors, and believe me, I know doctors — they used to have the cures, were allowed to, you know, they just drank it. You could, any street corner, with malt, just go in. Hello Bob, you know. Beautiful. Believe me, they'd say Mr President, Sir, Mr President, you have the best blood pressure. So strong, beautiful, Mr President but we've been piled on with Iran. They don't allow the helicopters any more, and the coats? You can't. Any day, they said, any day you can have it for free, and I was smart, I got the 5 cents back. That's how they get you. But with Iran. So now the doctors say there's no need to have blood pressure any more. They said they never need to check again. And that's why you can't any more. Which is good. You know, not the Iran thing, that's sad."
Didn't he have a weirdo doctor release a letter in 2020 saying he was in the best form ever?
Seriously... It's like these people never learn. He's an obstinate child and will never do what he doesn't want to do unless compelled by the courts.
...and that's actually a thing that his cult loves.
People are saying.
These guys are all "lets release our medical records!" and they're all like "lets make a list of who's children we need to murder if they won't find some extra votes for us" but also like "let's get some christians to go to the capital and pray for lord and saviour trump to save everyone from the evil tyranny of Kamala".