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But she accused the Russian President of exploiting the error by the former Speaker, who had apologized and resigned after the incident, for propaganda purposes.

“We can’t change the fact that he made that mistake. We can, though, all of us decide how effective Vladimir Putin is at weaponizing that mistake,” she said. “And I would really urge all of us to understand that Russian propaganda is real.”

brainworms Yes, the thing we did BY MISTAKE supports the claims made by our adversary, BUT its up to all of us to be dismissive of these claims, because they make my Uncles very upset

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[-] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago

There's a very simple solution to people weaponizing your Nazi worship

[-] huf@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago

yeah, it's to call it russian propaganda and then double down on it, apparently

[-] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The fucked up thing is this will genuinely work this is a nation of redditors

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

Just saying the word "Putin" shuts off liberals' brains. 10,000 hours of MSNBC has them trained like Pavlov's Dog.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

"Pavlov?! He must be one of Putler's many spies pushing propaganda!" maddened

[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago

I fucking hate western politicians so much

every single time something like this happens, the response is "Yes, we might have done the exact thing that Russian propaganda accuses us of doing - but that doesn't mean that the propaganda is correct. It is still disinformation."

[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago

Just in case anybody didn't know or forgot

Freeland's maternal grandfather, Michael Chomiak, had been a journalist before World War II. During the war in Nazi-occupied Poland and later in Nazi-occupied Austria he was chief editor of the Ukrainian daily newspaper Krakivs'ki Visti (Kraków News) for the Nazi regime. After Chomiak's death in 1984, John-Paul Himka, a professor of history at the University of Alberta, who was Chomiak's son-in-law (and also Freeland's uncle by marriage), used Chomiak's records, including old issues of the newspaper, as the basis of several scholarly papers focused on the coverage of Soviet mass murders of Ukrainian civilians. These papers also examined the use of these massacres as Nazi propaganda against Jews. In 2017, when Russian-affiliated websites, e.g. Russia Insider and New Cold War, further publicized Chomiak's connection to Nazism, Freeland and her spokespeople responded by claiming that this was a Russian disinformation campaign during her appointment to the position of minister of foreign affairs. Her office later denied Chomiak ever collaborated with Nazi Germany. However, reporting by The Globe and Mail showed that Freeland had known of her grandfather's Nazi ties since at least 1996, when she helped edit a scholarly article by Himka for the Journal of Ukrainian Studies

bean-think

[-] uSSRI@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Freeland even sounds like some lebensraum shit. It's just poland...it's free real estate. Good way to remember her connection when she defends her family/nazis

[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago

this is 100% like when Clinton accused Putin of "weaponizing intelligence" when the Nuland phone call audio was leaked.

it's so brazenly self-serving and disingenuous, it makes me angry that it's deployed as damage control, let alone that the piss-drinking hogs accept it.

[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

The prosecutor is weaponizing the CCTV recording of me stabbing the guy to death against me

[-] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago

Easy way to combat the propaganda would be to invite the nazi back and shoot him in the middle of the parliament

[-] ikiru@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 year ago

This has been probably the funniest political event of the year.

[-] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

so-far The funniest political event so far

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

we don't have a : canada-cool : which is the only appropriate response to this

edit: thanks comrades, kkkanada kkkanada kkkanada

[-] ItsPequod@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

kkkanada

Not correcting or anything just wanted to get in on this

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

can we get some more kkkanada in the chat folks?

[-] MaxOS@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

Putin shit in my pants and he's weaponizing my ibs.

[-] KittyBobo@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

What I don't get is, either it was a mistake and these people are really that incompetent or it wasn't a mistake and they somehow thought they'd get away with it. Which is it?

[-] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

For Zelensky and Freeland, obviously not a mistake. I'm sure that there were some politicos in the room who were just incompetent.

[-] blobjim@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

made the mistake of thinking they could get away with it

[-] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

As Putin put it, those applauding were either idiots or scoundrels.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

I hate liberals, there's a special place in the Skingrad dungeon for them and their Nazi apologia gulag

[-] Fishroot@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

you are the last one who should make statement like that

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

that he made that mistake

He? I think you mean WE. You gave that ovation too. Fuck off nazi applauder.

“And I would really urge all of us to understand that Russian propaganda is real.”

Your propaganda is real. You are a nazi sympathiser.

[-] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

oh my goodness someone pointed out the bad thing you did was bad

this must be literally hitler- wait

oml yall are fuckin nazis holy shit it is literally hitler what the fuck

[-] autismdragon@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

"Telling the truth about what literally happened is propaganda".

[-] beautiful_boater@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How easily could we see this coming. Just for context, her grandfather is Mikhail Chomiak who was head of Nazi propaganda for Eastern Europe and reported directly to Joseph Goebbels. She was on record saying that her grandfather inspired her to get into politics and her politics were inspired by his. Which became a controversy in 2016/2017 when it became public knowledge that her grandfather was a Nazi. She refused to apologize or even give a disingenuous denouncement of her grandfather. Instead the issue is that, even though she praised her Nazi grandfather, said her politics was informed by his, and refuse to denounce him, the fact that you know about her Nazi grandfather is due to Russian Disinformatzia. So even though it is all true, if your opinion of Chrystia Freeland is negatively impacted or you continue remembering this, or continue reporting on it, you are helping Putin!

I am certain that Trudeau, after sort of, half-heartedly, apologizing for praising a Nazi, saying that the real issue is Russian Disinformatzia causing you to think less of the Canadian government or Canadian liberals, due to this, was due to Chrystia Freeland.

[-] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

They were applauding him FOR HIS ACTIONS DURING WWII! Chrystia Freeland is a nazi apologist.

[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Chrystia Freeland is a nazi ~~apologist~~.

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