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[-] jumperalex@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

"The director tells me it could have been done in 72 hours if we were allowed to make it even more inhumane / unsafe"

Fixed that for you.

[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Don't forget to make the working conditions inhumane and unsafe for the workers building the place! That could probably shave off a few hours, too!

[-] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Built by and built for it's occupants planned occupants I bet :/

Edit: Its not it's (and autocorrect tried to correct me again)

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago
[-] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Fuck the people downvoting you, we have rules for a reason and you're right I'll fix it. I suspect a swipe error because usually I'm more attentive than that.

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

No judgement implied, I'm genuinely just trying to be helpful. 🙇🏼‍♂️🫣🫠

[-] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Well thanks! :)

[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Honestly, if you build or work at a place like this, you deserve to die. If you're a guard at a concentration camp, I hope you die quickly. You don't deserve to live.

[-] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

Not just for the homeless, people in North Carolina are literally STILL FINDING BODIES, living in tents and cars, and can't swim in any river or lake due to run off pollution

This just shows the government is fine killing us via exposure to the elements

[-] Nangijala@feddit.dk 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Your food too. The more I learn about American food production the happier I am that I have never set foot in the states. Way before all this crazy shit started happening, I already had many issues with the idea of visiting the country and one of the main ones was that I really didn't want to eat any of the food or drinking any of the water over there. They are literally poisoning you guys your whole lives.

[-] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Glyphosate, DDT, lead, mercury are huge issues in the US. Imo mercury is the biggest issue with what is happening in NC because that's all old gold mining territory and back in the 1800s they used mercury extensively to extract gold (severely poisoning the water supply and imo to this day it impacts us). But there's ofc lead in buckshot, and all the houses and cars that washed away had tons of different materials, oil, gas, MDF, etc etc

Corporations wont let us (via lobbying) have Medicare for All - because that would detect cancer (and toxins) and allow us to class action sue companies for them. Can’t sue if it was never detected. Thats why they find carcinogens and lead in kids’ products so much - their products dont have more lead in them, but kids all can be on Medicaid and that catches it. Flint, MI, water poisoning was detected by a kid on Medicaid.

They don’t want us to all have healthcare because that is public science and it will absolutely detect what theyve been lying and poisoning us with. It would probably destroy all the big companies like Nestle, Johnson&Johnson, Colgate, etc…

Yeah, don't blame you for not coming here.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago

elemental mercury itself its the least toxic, its only the ones that are organo-mercury compounds.

[-] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/story/mercury-has-long-poisoned-gold-miners-new-strategy-helping-change

This toxic chemical has been used in small-scale gold mining for more than 3,000 years and can cause irreversible brain damage.

[-] Nangijala@feddit.dk 2 points 1 month ago

I hope things will get better someday. I don't know if it will happen in our lifetime, but I do believe that the US will improve and become a nation that is for the people and not a nation for the corporation.

[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 month ago

Daily reminder to all ICE agents. By signing up for ICE, you have signed yourself up for a lifetime of fear and criminal liability. There are Nazi concentration camp guards that were tried for their crimes in their 90s. There is no statute of limitations on crimes against humanity. Your names are recorded; your deeds are known. And you will face justice for your crimes.

I want every Democratic politician to be repeating this every chance they get, a modern day "Carthage must be destroyed." My greatest fear is that when this is done, and Democrats are eventually back in power, that they will fall back on the same suicidal tendencies that got us here in the first place. Obama came into power on the back of the criminal Bush administration, and his first act of office was to declare "it's time to move on," and to announce that no members of the prior regime would be prosecuted. And Biden did the same after the first Trump term. We need to be willing to hold people accountable. And we need to be talking about this now. We need to fully embrace the idea of prosecuting ICE agents for their crimes against humanity. We cannot declare it's time to move on and to let them get away with what they have done.

And no, "I'm just following orders" is not an excuse. Anyone who says that deserves to hang.

[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

This needs to be (if it isn't already) a copypasta that finds its way onto every post and comment board concerning ICE and the current administration's barbarous acts towards people who's only crime was not being a white person who was born here.

[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

I suppose I should add to this, "and do not count on a blanket pardon saving you. Crimes against humanity are violations of international law that cannot be pardoned."

[-] axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 4 points 1 month ago

Nuremberg trials

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yes, but that needs that we actually win, and not just be in the period of the slow death of the "free world" and the "rules based world order", instead of heading towards a dark age of globalized neofascism and neocoloinalism.

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[-] bcgm3@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

"Built a 3000 bed federal prison in eight days" almost sounds like they finally actually did something, until you realize:

  • The compound is located at the site of the Dade-Collier Training and Transition Airport, so there was already infrastructure
  • The area for detainees is a tent
  • Inside the tent is bunk beds, portapotties and a chain link fence

But yeah, I also would have preferred our government take care of the unhoused (or just done nothing at all) instead of... this.

[-] PDFuego@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

I'm sure plenty of homeless people will get to stay there 😊

[-] fartographer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

God is Jesus all the time. Braise the Lord. Amen in the chat if you Jesus every day in the shower. 🙏

[-] Zidane@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm about to jesus my pants

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

I'm so glad the yellow underline exists in this 60-word screenshot to tell me where I should pay attention. I don't think my poor, dystrophied zoomer brain could sit down for the average 15 seconds it would take otherwise.

[-] capuccino@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago
[-] morrowind@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Wait I need my subway surfer footage

[-] Zidane@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

I'm helping

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[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Oooh, a wild "dystrophied" appeared! 😱 So rare, so shiny!

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Rare, and I meant to say "atrophied" but can't now because it's been called out. 😩

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[-] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Haven’t seen it pointed out, yet, but it should be noted that a chain link fence and some tents are structures that have been completely toppled by far less than 3000 people many, MANY times. These are very fragile things they are building.

On an unrelated note, bolt cutters are not expensive and neither are ground bloomers, tape, and plyers.

[-] MrShankles@reddthat.com 6 points 1 month ago

It's the surrounding Everglades that becomes the problem. But idk, I don't think I'd give a fuck vs staying there and dying from West Nile, flooding, heat stroke, hurricane, atrocities, etc... and with 3000 people, you have a much better chance

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 5 points 1 month ago

What's a "ground bloomer"?

[-] T156@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I believe they call them "flowers".

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

oh of course, don't forget to always keep your safety flowers with yourself if you want to escape after being kidnapped

[-] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

They have to survive the swamp and patrols though. Once escaped, then what? They can't get a job etc

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's not that difficult to build a concentration camp with shitty cots, inadequate facilities, and hazardousness as a feature built in on nearly unlivable land in the Everglades.

It likely is slightly more difficult to build housing for homeless people unless you're trying to build death trap, concentration camp housing for them as well.

[-] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I get the point they're trying to make, but this is a pretty silly comparison. It's like "oh, so you can eat a 6" sub but not an 18" pizza? Pff, fake hunger".

[-] original_charles@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

unless you're trying to build death trap, concentration camp housing for them as well.

Just you wait, I'm sure that's in the works too.

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

Provide unlivable caging, you mean. Homeless people don't deserve to be "housed" in something like this any more than undocumented immigrants do. The reason homeless housing takes money and time is that it's supposed to be humane, and put people where they can interact with the resources of the community. Alligators aren't NIMBYs, and the administration ignored environmentalist organizations that protested on their behalf.

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[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don’t suppose anyone thought of humane conditions while building a concentration camp in a Florida swamp. Even prisoners deserve something to control the heat, the humidity, the mosquitoes, or were causing yet more needless deaths

And yes, employees overseeing obviously inhumane conditions should absolutely face justice for those illnesses and deaths

[-] amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago

~~Even~~ Especially prisoners deserve something to control the heat.

part of the problem is that so many are OK with these concentration camps because they believe criminals deserve whatever happens to them in prison.

if people stopped indulging that false dichotomy between criminal and upstanding citizen, we might not be seeing such a large-scale kidnapping.

[-] acchariya@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This might be where they ship homeless people when they run out of immigrants

I haven't seen much mention of this but putting people in camps like this in south Florida is a very bad idea. WW1 veterans were housed in hastily constructed camps like this in 1935 in the Florida keys and many were killed by a powerful hurricane that rolled though. There is a reason for the strong building codes and tents do not meet them.

[-] don@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Housing the homeless: I sleep

Build a concentration camp: real shit

[-] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Sure, they can provide quick housing for the homeless... As long as your standards are "puppy mill" or "chicken farm".

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

Well, I'm sure a human domicile would be a bit more robust than "alligator Alcatraz" so instead of 8 days, it might take more like.... 8 weeks? To build something comparable for the homeless?

Depending on how complex each housing unit is (bathrooms/kitchens/whatever) possibly more or less. Idk.

But knowing that the world runs on capitalist dollars, there's no profit in it. They can't pay rent, they don't have any money, and they would actively cost you money, either in property tax, water, power, and/or food... Not to mention any replacement costs for any fixtures or furniture that's damaged/stolen.

Not saying the unhoused are thieves, but a nontrivial number of them are desperate, and desperate people do things that they otherwise wouldn't consider doing.

In any case, the solution to the homeless "problem" (being that people are homeless at all) is not just housing, but also community services to get any drug users into their respective rehabilitation programs, and anyone willing and able to work, into job placements... Mental health services...

All of these things cost money and don't yield any profits, so I understand why they're not done. That doesn't mean I'm ok with it not being done, it's a shame that we've left a portion of the population to fend for themselves on the streets and we almost universally dehumanize them as less than a person because they're homeless. They're people. We should take care of them because they're people.

No child left behind, but anyone post highschool that's living on the streets, fuck them.... I guess.

[-] hOrni@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago
[-] SARGE@startrek.website 2 points 1 month ago

Bastards and pieces of shit.

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