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Everyone LOVES the IRON DOME! (hexbear.net)

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[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 33 points 18 hours ago

Maybe if Israel didn't feel immortal, they'd actually negotiate.

Incidentally, this is not an important issue, but if you hold the lives of Israeli citizens as being that much more important than those of Palestinians, it still makes sense to undermine the Iron Dome. The dome is the reason Hamas has long resorted to the tactic of launching scattershot missiles all over the place, because it's something of a counter to what the dome is good at, and this is a major source of the (relatively sparse) civilian casualties on the Israeli side. Without the dome, or with it in a very reduced state, Hamas would be in a better position to use missiles in a much more targeted way.

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 24 points 17 hours ago

I think her tweet is bullshit, but like, if it isn't and you give them $500m for iron dome that's $500m they don't have to spend on iron dome and can spend elsewhere 🤔

[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 14 points 16 hours ago

Yes, that's a much more important point, I just wanted to add what I mentioned to advance the point that there is no level at all on which her argument makes sense unless you are prioritizing the lives of IOF soldiers over Palestinian children.

[-] MayoPete@hexbear.net 10 points 16 hours ago

Those kids can't write her future Presidential campaign a check for $500k, so... 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

[-] Bronstein_Tardigrade@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 17 hours ago

Lil' Miss Sellout working hard to maintain her title.

[-] TheRogueKitten@hexbear.net 34 points 21 hours ago

Has... Has she actually read history?

Iron Dome is as destabilizing for the region as any offensive weapon.

If you dont believe me, look up SDI in 1983.

The same reasons SDI was a destabilizing forse applies to Iron Dome.

[-] quarrk@hexbear.net 1 points 1 hour ago

In general, there is no meaningful difference between a “defensive” arms race and an “offensive” one. George W Bush’s exit from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty led directly to nuclear proliferation and acute risk of war. When one side has a more effective missile defense system, the other side gets nervous, making things more dangerous for everyone, not less. Russia probably wouldn’t have hypersonic missiles today if it weren’t for the US advancing its missile defenses.

[-] XxFemboy_Stalin_420_69xX@hexbear.net 31 points 20 hours ago

Has... Has she actually read history?

of course not. if she had she wouldn't be a liberal

[-] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 20 hours ago

She doesn't care. Her job is to stand firmly on the left flank of the Democratic party and shame anyone who tries to move even an inch further left.

[-] CommunistCuddlefish@hexbear.net 16 points 19 hours ago

I misread "shame" as "shank" and it works even better

[-] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 21 points 20 hours ago

and beyond that like the cost for munitions is fungible, if you're NOT SPENDING on iron dome shit, you have MORE MONEY for your "genocide weapons" (tm)? like this is first grade shit

[-] Llituro@hexbear.net 42 points 22 hours ago

no no no you don't understand it's actually really important that we help the nazis defend themselves.

[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 14 points 18 hours ago

I just don't think that more people on the Wehrmacht dying is conducive to ending the war.

[-] MayoPete@hexbear.net 10 points 16 hours ago

Even that "point" makes no sense... wouldn't more casualties cause Israel to want to come to the negotiation table faster? You make the loss of life so great that either you push for peace or your government collapses?