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I read the first 3 Dune books after seeing the movie and hearing about the challenges of getting that story on the screen. Love the first 2, the ending of the 3rd was ok.

I’m 3/4ths through the 4th and final Hyperion books. Absolutely incredible, I’m disappointed knowing I’ll be done with it soon. I highly recommend it if you’re at all curious. The author does an excellent job sneaking deep references into the colorful narrative; Keats and Ancient Greek mythology among them. The characters are vivid, varied, and somehow all relatable.

When I was younger I liked Vonnegut, specifically Galapagos, cats cradle, and slaughter house 5. I recently read Philip K Dicks “do androids… electric sheep” and wasn’t a fan. I loved the film blade runner, but the book kind of trudged on for me with, what I felt was, a let down of an ending. Asimov’s foundation was ok, but it lacked action and the characters seemed thin; I do like the concept a lot, it was just missing something for me.

So what’s next? I read a few classics in school and wasn’t terribly moved by most of them. I’ve considered giving Philip K Dick another chance, and possibly exploring the Dune books not authored by Herbert. I’m not a big fan of fantasy- at least in the horse riding, sword wielding, magic and sorcery vein.

Thanks for any suggestions

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[-] LNRDrone@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 month ago

Maybe Iain M. Banks' Culture series, if you're not familiar with his work already. The books are generally standalobe stories, but there are some recurring side characters and references to earlier books. Consider Phlebas is the first one I think.

[-] lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

I'm just starting this series now. Looking forward to it

[-] RipLemmDotEE@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago

They are absolutely amazing books.

[-] NeryK@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago

I suggest the Commonwealth's saga by Peter F. Hamilton (Pandora's star, Judas unchained).

[-] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Great books, I recently re-read and they don't stand up as well as I remember, some characters in particular, but still good.

[-] Thteven@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

The Nights Dawn series is good too. Love his stuff.

[-] lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
  • Octavia Butler
  • Ursula K Le Guin

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[-] MagnumDovetails@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

I’ve heard of Le Guin, thanks for the recommendations

[-] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

The Dispossessed is a really interesting look at anarchism in practice

Also may I recommend the Culture series by Iain M Banks.

[-] Pencilnoob@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Simmons' books "Illum" and "Odessey" are pretty great and feel like the same universe

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I second these if you want more Simmons.

[-] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Blindsight by Peter watts.

Now some half-derelict space probe, sparking fitfully past Neptune’s orbit, hears a whisper from the edge of the solar system: a faint signal sweeping the cosmos like a lighthouse beam. Whatever’s out there isn’t talking to us. It’s talking to some distant star, perhaps. Or perhaps to something closer, something en route.

So who do you send to force introductions on an intelligence with motives unknown, maybe unknowable? Who do you send to meet the alien when the alien doesn’t want to meet?

You send a linguist with multiple personalities, her brain surgically partitioned into separate, sentient processing cores. You send a biologist so radically interfaced with machinery that he sees X-rays and tastes ultrasound, so compromised by grafts and splices he no longer feels his own flesh. You send a pacifist warrior in the faint hope she won’t be needed, and a fainter hope she’ll do any good if she is needed. You send a monster to command them all, an extinct hominid predator once called “vampire,” recalled from the grave with the voodoo of recombinant genetics and the blood of sociopaths. And you send a synthesist – an informational topologist with half his mind gone – as an interface between here and there, a conduit through which the Dead Center might hope to understand the Bleeding Edge.

Blindsight is the ability of people who are cortically blind to respond to visual stimuli that they do not consciously see due to lesions in the primary visual cortex, also known as the striate cortex or Brodmann Area 17. --Wikipedia

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

My all-time favorite book, read it 14 times or so.

[-] TachyonTele@piefed.social 0 points 1 month ago

It's blind sight the one that has vampires in it for absolutely no reason? I couldn't get through it.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

You missed the point of, everything about Blindsight? Did you think they were sparkly vampires?

[-] TachyonTele@piefed.social 0 points 1 month ago

They're a forgotten anciant race of vampires that suddenly woke up and are now piloting space ships lmao it's incredibly cringy.

I just said i couldn't get through the book, so no i did not get far enough to see the point in it.

[-] Thteven@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

If you haven't finished it how can you know they're there for no reason?

[-] TachyonTele@piefed.social 0 points 1 month ago

I just said i couldn't get through the book, so no i did not get far enough to see the point in it.

[-] Thteven@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Right, my point is that you didn't get far enough to learn why they're there so you can't say they're part of the story for no reason.

I found the book to be a fascinating thought experiment on the evolution of human consciousness, how we think and interact, and what it means for us as a species. If you can suspend your disbelief about the vampire I think it's worth the read, it's one of those books that made me stare off into space lost in thought after I finished it.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 7 points 1 month ago

I didn't really like the Hyperion series much myself, but both Dune and Hyperion are sci-fi with religious elements. Maybe A Canticle for Leibowitz.

[-] johncritzman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I loved Canticle. I recommend it to everyone

[-] jacksilver@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Similar in nature, but a bit more space focused would be the Foundation Series. It's a series by Issac Asimov where a mathematician sets up a planet to try to speed up a galactic dark age due to an empire collapsing.

Apple TV has a series on it, but it actually focuses on what happens leading up to the main story of the first book.

[-] waxy@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

Revelation Space by Alastair Reynolds. If you like it (and I think you will) there are more in the series.

[-] makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

If you're looking for something epic but self-contained I really liked "Seveneves" by Neal Stephenson. If you want something that's got a similar level of art to Hyperion I'd suggest "This is How You Lose the Time War" by Amal El-Mohtar and Max Gladstone

[-] falidorn@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

This is how you lose a time war is fantastic I haven’t read Hyperion yet but that’s definitely another vote for Time War.

[-] lonlazarus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 month ago

I believe the most popular PKD is Man in the High Castle, my favorite is Ubik. But to be honest, if you disliked Do Androids, PKD may just not be your thing.

Hmmm… maybe next go for something a little less ponderous, try some Neal Stephenson, maybe Diamond Age.

[-] BruisedMoose@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago

I read Snow Crash last year and it was one of the worst slogs I've ever endured. I get that people like Stephenson, but definitely not for me.

[-] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago

Ubik is a lot of fun. I enjoyed high Castle, but man that tv show soured me on it big time. (Which is stupid, i know, but here i am)

[-] kalpol@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The Aubrey-Maturin series, not sci-fi but just about the best novels there are.

Maybe Foundation series, original 3.

[-] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Adrian Tchaikovskuly Children of Time, Ruin, and Memory. Also The Final Architecture book 1 Shards of Earth by same author and there 3 books in thar series.

Then after all those The Dark Tower series by Stephen King. That should keep you busy for a while.

[-] emergence_trailblazer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Thanks y'all, I'm saving this post for all the good recommendations in there :)

[-] jacksilver@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Some of my suggestions:

  • Forever War - due to time dilation this story follows combatants that spend decades at war while on earth hundreds of years pass (inspired by the Vietnam War).
  • Stanger in a Strange Land - Story of a human raised by Martians coming to earth. Has similar religious notes as dune and hyperion, but also has a weird Ayn Rand vibe (in my opinion, also not necessarily in a bad way).
[-] Kirk@startrek.website 3 points 1 month ago

Dang are you me? Galapagos is one of my favorite Vonneguts. I recently finished Hyperion cantos too, and am now on book three of the Xeelee sequence which so far have been very good and give similar vibes as Hyperion.

Someone else mentioned Blindsight which is maybe a top three for me. Different tonally than the Hyperion Cantos but still excellent. Same goes for Children of Time.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I'm you! Just finished rereading The Hyperion Cantos and started Vonnegut again.

[-] Rhaxapopouetl@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 month ago

Give Philip K Dick a chance: Start with 'Ubik'. I think we all need a little bit of Dick in our lives, to broaden our horizons.

[-] wolfrasin@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Dogs of war

To sleep in a sea of stars

Expeditionary Force

Three body problem

[-] HessiaNerd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I gotta say I think Three Body Problem is not very good. Some interesting ideas and an interesting perspective re:Chinese revolution, but as a story it was weak. Plus when you get to the second book it drags out the premise so much and relies on basically deus ex machinima to handwave the plot holes.

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

Against The Day

Inherent Vice

When Women Were Dragons

Circe

Annihilation

[-] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Sue Burke's Semiosis was an interesting read (go in blind is my recommendation)

[-] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

Roadside Picnic is awesome. It inspired the film stalker. I loved it.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Absolutely incredible, I’m disappointed knowing I’ll be done with it soon.

Hyperion was def one of those series that I was sad to finish, like, it impacted me that "how tf can there be no more of it" way more than the norm.

Simmons in general has a very wide variety of topics in genres & Hyperion alternates them nicely (while never really leaving sci-fi).

any suggestions

Maybe as a short palette cleanser 'The Terror' by the same author? It's completely different, but nicely done. I've read a few more books by Simmons after Hyperion & this one stood out* a bit more (it's not as polished as Hyperions, but much more than the rest I've read - overall easy to read, I like it when the setting/spaces are always explained, and most importantly it's one of those stories that I gladly let live in my mind).
Warning: it has one instance of horse riding! But it's in horny a flashback :). It's a historical fantasy with good semifictional characters, really tasteful blend of actual Inuit stories, historical nautical facts, & authors own derived reality of both, also one of the top tier "monsters" ever ... and the Hyperion-style technical description that make sense of the basically literal alien world (the same story could have been set in planet exploration).
[*Edit: I completely forgot about Ilium & Olympos. Those are sort of more of the sci-fi with the expected classical twist, but I stand by my Terror recommendation too, it just lacks interplanetary travel.]

The real suggestion (and I can't/am unable to explain why the association in my mind) is the Rama series by Arthur C. Clarke. It's prob one of the top easiest writer/books for me to read (the way things are explained & which things are explained, how characters act, etc). It's nicely logical & absurdity fantastical without it ever being fantastical for the sake of being fantastical (ie the big amazing things always make sense & don't seem forced or unlikely).

[-] DaMonsterKnees@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I fucking did not like that book. I did not like any of the characters. Grrrr to that book. That is all. I guess in saying I wouldn't go more Hyperion. Do Revelation Space Series. Much better.

[-] Speculater@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I gave Hyperion about 200 pages and they were STILL world building and offering leading secrets the author didn't think the reader needed to know. So I just gave up.

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[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 1 points 1 month ago

In the same sort of vain like Hyperion are the Revelation Space series by Alastair Reynolds. He does the same sort of excellent work of world building and I found both series very comparable and intriguing. Also would recommend the Berserker series by Fred Saberhagen, very much a similar feel.

[-] TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Haven't seen these mentioned here, but the "Old Man's War" series by John Scalzi is great as are "The Expanse" books by James SA Corey. I'd highly recommend those to anyone, but especially those looking for grounded and hard-ish sci-fi that doesn't lose the reader or become overly technical.

I highly highly recommend Old Man's War to anyone looking to get into sci-fi novels for the first time, Scalzi really takes care of his reader and his writing is a delight. The Expanse books are awesome whether or not you've seen the TV series... the show runners really took care with the source material and, ask any fan of the books, it is a great adaptation. The show hits the same plot points of the books while getting there in new and interesting ways. Further, the show created a new character in Kamina Drummer who immediately became a fan favorite of both show and book lovers (she's an amalgamation of a couple of book characters and becomes her own thing that really adds SO much to the story and world building).

[-] ZDL@lazysoci.al 1 points 4 weeks ago

Ursula K. LeGuin's Always Coming Home is an intriguing approach to novel writing. Some can't get into it because it looks more like an ethnologist's report, but there is a story there (and I don't mean the segments with Stone Telling: the entire novel has a story that rewards those who pay attention).

[-] PillowD@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

While nothing like Dan Simmons, The Three Body Problem is the only one that has knocked my socks off in the last 10 years. If you want to stick with Simmons I recommend Song of Kali.

[-] truxnell@aussie.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

I put down three body after first book, perhaps I should push through

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