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They even fucking lied?
Then the GOP chair, Rep. Higgins, lied, claiming the motion FAILED
I'm not holding my breath but I'm really hoping that will help maga chuds clue in that the GOP are wholly dishonest.
10% of them saying it was wrong is the best we'll get. Him being charged with treason is what it should be
Here's hoping that 10% are our fucking dipshit relatives eh?
It has to at least fall under this:
"§1001. Statements or entries generally Whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of the United States knowingly and willfully falsifies, conceals or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact, or makes any false, fictitious or fraudulent statements or representations, or makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any false, fictitious or fraudulent statement or entry, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 749 ; Sept. 13, 1994, Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §330016(1)(L), 108 Stat. 2147 .)"
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=49&f=treesort&num=1262
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They don't care they just want to "win".
Actually they just want to "own the libs". They'll all scream to have the Epstein files released if you hint that AOC might be in there.
Of course they want to "own the libs". They believe people get more conservative as they age, so kids have to be libs. And they definitely want to be able to own & trade children!
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I get what you’re saying, but there are now two very distinct news spheres, and the one that they’re watching will simply not cover this story.
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I'm guessing Roberts Rules stuff.
As a quick and dirty thing, you can call a voice vote of ayes and nays. If it's not particularly close, it'll be obvious what the outcome is, the Chair will call the result, and everyone moves on. However, any member can call bullshit on the Chair, and then it goes to a more formal process.
So without watching the whole damn video, it's probably that the voice vote went one way, the Chair said it was the other, got called on it, and the roll call vote went against him.
2 people said 'nay' and 8 people said 'aye'... It was an honest mistake anyone could have made.
lol
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I did watch the video and it was blatant and ridiculous.
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MAGAs can't resist cheating at every opportunity. Here we are again with standard election fraud on a micro basis, but we're supposed to believe that they won the 2024 Election "Fair & Square?"
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the single person who voted no: "In the opinion of the chair the nos have it"
the multiple people who voted "yes" laugh at the absurdity and call him out on it
how fucking brazen a liar
Shouldn't that be like contempt of congress or something?
maybe if laws/rules applied to Republicans in positions of power
Should be grounds to have his ass beat
I feel like this would be a great addition to congress. Make C-SPAN interactive and viewers can vote on whether or not to have someone involved in a proceeding flogged with something like a 90% majority.
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"The no has it" are you fucking kidding me.
Bruh this isn't the first time Higgens has tried this shit either. I find him specifically so infuriating.
So this subpoena means they get to review the documents, and presumably in their original state as well?
So if they get redacted ones, that would be obstruction of justice, but the question becomes did the obstruction of justice happen as a result of his duties of office, or one of personal reasons.
This still could get worse, even if the information that needs to come out does.
Obstruction of justice? In this part of the session? Located entirely within this government?
Yes.
Can I see it?
No.
The worse I'm referring to is that the supreme court takes up this case and says "yeah this is clearly an official act and the president isn't able to be prosecuted."
The video was fun to watch to watch.
If my understanding is right, it just means this sub committee will now subpoena all documents. Not like it will be available to everybody, just available to the lawmakers. You must be a real pedophile-ophile to want to block your committee from having knowledge.
I think GOP wants to get rid of Trump but keep MAGA. They've simply been unable to manipulate that outcome until now.
The only way they can bifurcate Trump from MAGA is if they have an equally "charismatic" strongman that can take his place. It would especially help if he's young.
And it's not Vance.
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I kinda agree, but IMO the better way to phrase it is that they don't have a solid plan. Fascists are stupid. They have to be, right, because they're building a system that is guaranteed to eat itself. Whoever is in charge always wants more power, which eventually must come from their cohorts, so you can't do it as a team, at least not if people are using their brains.
What does this actually mean?
When he was the only person to say no, and then claimed "the noes have it," that was the funniest gd thing I've seen all day. Hahahahahaha!
Just browsed r/conservative for a bit to see the response there. Pleasantly surprised to see multiple posts where the top comment was something along the lines of "release everything, don't care who is affected on either side"
They made us think it was conservative versus progressive. Democrat vs Republican.
It always was the elite versus the people
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A House Oversight subcommittee voted Wednesday to subpoena the Department of Justice to release the Jeffrey Epstein files.
The motion passed by a vote of 8-2. Notably, three GOP lawmakers -- Reps. Nancy Mace, Scott Perry and Brian Jack -- joined with Democrats on the subcommittee to approve the subpoena, defying Republican leadership.
House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer must sign the subpoena before it can be officially issued, per committee rules. Comer plans to sign off on the subpoena, a Republican committee source told ABC News.
The top Democrat on the subcommittee, Rep. Summer Lee, initially offered the motion.
I came up with the actual vote in question directly from congress. https://www.congress.gov/event/119th-congress/house-event/118526?s=3&r=3
Here is the entire vote and all surrounding context. The supposed "lie" about the vote count is apparently made up for engagement bait by whatever anonymous jaggoff still trolls x on their call to activism account
Can someone explain to this non-american why the Democrats are treating this as a successful upset when they could have released the Epstein files during Biden?
Because they COULDN'T release them under Biden. They were sealed by court order until January 2025.
There is a lot of desperate "both sides" nonsense going on here but the fact remains, Democrats are voting to release them and Republicans are not. If Democrats wanted to cover them up, why would they be doing that?
I don't see anyone saying this yet, but the Epstein files were sealed by a court order for Ghislaine Maxwell's trial. They weren't unsealed until January of 2025. Biden couldn't have released them without violating the court order that sealed them - and possibly giving Ghislaine's lawyers a slam dunk to get her off with a mistrial.
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