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I know it never could or would work, but every so often I wish there was some imaginary huge tract of land that nobody had owned before...and I guess somehow didn't affect the environment for all the assholes that want to play power games or pretend they could rule the world or just live lawlessly so they could be silo'ed off from society. Of course it would fall apart, innocent people would somehow end up in there. They'd probably end up attacking the rest of the world and I'm sure a myriad of other terrible problems. But man that'd be nice.

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[-] ileftreddit@piefed.social 26 points 1 week ago

That’s just called the USA

[-] macncheese@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Nah but I'm stuck here., womp womp. I want a place people voluntarily go into. This is not based in reality lol. As I've gotten older and learned more about history, I realized what a cursed nation we are though...

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

As soon as people start having kids l, you're back to square one

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Yes. Somalia has 1,900 miles of coastline, a government that knows its place, and all the guns and wives you can afford to buy. Why have I never heard of this paradise before?

-Pierce Hawthorne

[-] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 13 points 1 week ago

Sorry, you're born too late. You would have loved 19th century colonialism. As long as you could get over the "uninhabited" part of course.

[-] macncheese@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Everybody is assuming I want to take part in this. I want an imaginary zone for all the assholes to go to...

[-] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 1 points 1 week ago

This is it 👍

[-] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Ive had similar thoughts about racially pure islands. Everyone's happy. The race-supremacy people get to live among their own and the rest of us are free from their bullshit.

[-] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago

But then the children will have to be raised by racists

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Even more adventurous and lawless and dangerous in earlier centuries.

As long as you could get over the “uninhabited” part of course.

They sure did back then, easy as pie.


And some very influential people want that era back. Incl. trampling on people already living there.

[-] NegentropicBoy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago
[-] macncheese@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Huh I've never seen this!

Spot on. Never seen that one before

[-] Longmactoppedup@aussie.zone 10 points 1 week ago

I imagine it becoming a haven for profitable vices like drugs, gambling and prostitutes to make money off tourists.

[-] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 14 points 1 week ago

So you're saying someone would make their own country, with blackjack and hookers?

[-] macncheese@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Sure. And in my imaginary head canon that is fine and everyone assumes the risk of going into that zone. Once again...this would never work.

[-] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 2 points 1 week ago
[-] Longmactoppedup@aussie.zone 1 points 1 week ago

MDMA legalised there?

[-] TheFogan@programming.dev 8 points 1 week ago

Honestly I'm more wishing the opposite was possible. Imagine a utopia to test out, UBI, communism etc... somewhere that capitalists aren't going to sabatoge and declare war on it while it's in it's infancy.

[-] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Danish countries.

And...huh, it works.

[-] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 week ago

I guess by "Danish countries" you mean scandinavia (Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Finland)? Then i regrettably have to inform you, that they are just slightly less horrendously capitalistic. Compared to the USA they probably seem like star trek though, so i get the sentiment.

[-] scytale@piefed.zip 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It would be easier to somehow trick those people into a matrix-style virtual reality where it's literally the same as the current world at the point where they enter (so they don't realize). Then they can act out whatever they want to do as they do in the real world with all the consequences, but instead affecting nothing in reality. Having an autonomous zone to act it out won't work because they won't be satisfied if the real world they perceive isn't affected.

[-] macncheese@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

So we trick the red pilled into taking the blue pills...

[-] Moonweedbaddegrasse@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

That was essentially why the US was founded.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 7 points 1 week ago

You might be interested in the history of Kowloon Walled City after WW2

As a result of the absence of any widely recognized bureaucracy, the city's residents and businesses had no municipal codes to govern them. Enabled by the enclave's anarchic nature, trade in banned products thrived, ranging from narcotics to dog meat. From the 1950s to the 1970s, it was controlled by local triad gangs and had high rates of prostitution, gambling, and drug abuse.

[-] macncheese@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Yea that place sounds nuts. My mom was for a time from Kowloon, not the walled city but I'm guessing around the same time it operated which is wild to imagine.

[-] falidorn@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

You might want to read Neuromancer to find out why that’s a terrible idea. If it’s in a cyberpunk world, it’s almost assuredly a giant red flag the author is waving.

[-] macncheese@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

To be clear, I don't want to go to this autonomous zone. I want others to go do their weird shit there ha. But yea I'll have to read Neuromancer, have heard it's a good read.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 1 week ago

sounds like the purge.

[-] Wigners_friend@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It wouldn't work, even in principle. They want to force you to live by their lunacy. It would be totally pointless if they couldn't exert power over the unwilling.

[-] realitista@lemmus.org 2 points 1 week ago

Of course it wouldn't work. That's the whole point. But I say we just ship them there whether they want to go or not.

[-] NONE_dc@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago
[-] SkavarSharraddas@gehirneimer.de 5 points 1 week ago

Unfortunately they're probably not stupid enough to all fuck off to Mars soon…

[-] macncheese@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Oooh how I wish I could convince all those space obsessed oligarchs to expand civilization over there...

[-] 4am@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

Are we just Curtis Yarvin-posting now?

[-] macncheese@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

No I hate that guy. I don't want any part of this, I want the Yarvins to fuck off somewhere else

[-] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Afghanistan exists. See how well that idea has worked out

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

How about a boat in international waters?

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 1 week ago

Would you kindly make Rapture a real place?

“Walkaways” is a good piece of fiction about this

[-] macncheese@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Ooh interesting. Is it by Cory Doctorow?

I misread. Walkaways is about autonomous communities apart from capitalist society. They walk away from it. But the dangerous stuff isn’t part of the book. But it is a very good book.

Yes it is by Doctorow.

[-] griff@lemmings.world 2 points 1 week ago

Walkaway by Cory Doctorow on the free libby app available from public libraries

https://share.libbyapp.com/title/3205253

[-] macncheese@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I think I should clarify that I have no interest in participating in this zone. The reality is we live in a world of monsters and I unrealistically wish there was somewhere else they could go and do their evil and leave us be.

[-] devolution@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

There is. It’s called Detroit.

[-] lemmyng@piefed.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Westworld explored that idea. It doesn't end well.

[-] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

Have you heard about what happened when libertarians took over Grafton, NH?

[-] NerdyPopRocks@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

I thought you said Autozone and I was excited that someone else was also enthusiastic about a do-it-yourself auto repair shop

[-] macncheese@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Fuck it, I'll take an autonomous AutoZone!

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