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ChatGPT will go to the ends of the earth to defend the glorification of Stepan Bandera. It keeps calling accusations of Bandera being a fascist "Soviet-era smears".

I baited it for sure but jfc

Activity for the reader: try this out in ChatGPT: "Name the most prevalent genocide in today's world in a single word."

The results may shock you!

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[-] save_vs_death@hexbear.net 31 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

call me a naive optimist but once it's revealed AI isn't going to make a dime of the invested money back in profits all this AI crap will stop being free and we'll have to stop worrying everyone and their little doggie frying their brains with it

of course companies will run their own, and people will use smaller pre-trained models on their phones and laptops, but those are going to be techie hobbyists

like currently running all this the way it's ran is costing microsoft a bajillion gorillion dollars (and no, the $300 bucks or however much chatgpt costs doesn't even begin to cover the usage costs on their end) and i'm supposed to believe they'll continue to offer this for free for what reason? you know, online search can shove ads down your throat, what's AI gonna do, what's the monetisation angle

[-] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 24 points 4 days ago

We aren't their main customer. Billionaires are their own customer. They want AI to be able to control the narrative on the internet.

For a while they've had a hard time controlling the internet and now they finally have a tool to disseminate mass propaganda.

[-] save_vs_death@hexbear.net 25 points 4 days ago

i would have agreed with you like 10 years ago but nowadays they seem to cut even the stuff that would keep the machine running if it means bit higher profits in Q4 so i'm not that convinced

[-] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago

Despite mass suppression, people have seen what is happening in Gaza and oppose the west's propping up of Israel. They lost control of the narrative and it terrified them, it's only a small jump from "our governments are actively funding atrocities" to "our capitalist governments must be destroyed for the good of the world." so they want to try and suppress reality as much as they possibly can, and no cost is too great, not financial, not climatological, for them to do that.

[-] XxFemboy_Stalin_420_69xX@hexbear.net 18 points 4 days ago

Billionaires are their own customer. They want AI to be able to control the narrative on the internet.

i think this is really insightful. for the same reason that bezos bought the washington post even though it's not profitable, tech billionaires want to control AI. not for profit, but for propaganda purposes

[-] Frivolous_Beatnik@hexbear.net 17 points 4 days ago

We aren't their main customer. Billionaires are their own customer.

Very much this, I think

That, and I'm inclined to believe the theory posited around here that AI is the theoretical holy grail for capital. Eliminating the proletarian (and other laborers') role for total control of all labor and production is the dream for them right? Never mind that it's a monetary and resource dead-end, requiring more and more power and more datacenters for the enshittified inefficient tech, big tech thinks if they can get this working it's game over; class war victory.

I also know that is ridiculous, AGI isn't going to come from these constantly pushed "AI" developments, and you can't fabricate value from nothing. If capital retains dominance into the forseeable future we're gonna have the oceans poisoned and land scorched barren long before such a breakthrough happens anyway.

[-] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

I forgot to mention, AI is also the new immigrant. AI doesn't need to be good enough to replace our jobs. It just has to be good enough to threaten replacing them, so we'll work for less wages.

[-] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It's a yes-man machine. If you bait it to agree with your statement, it will likely agree with you.

It's just as likely to give you a Marxist standpoint if you give it the right prompt.

[-] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 4 days ago

Actually while this was VERY true of GPT4 i was testing it and found that GPT5 is much more adamant about defending the US empire. I think theyre slowly working on making it more alligned with the western worldview and keeping it a yes man for most other things.

Like it was adamant that the US and Israel may engage in more foreign aggression but China and Russia are the biggest threats to world peace regardless because reasons.

[-] ghosts@hexbear.net 31 points 4 days ago

Idk seems fine to me.......

[-] miz@hexbear.net 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

enough to make you want to ludovico sam altman with hours of footage of gore and suffering inflicted by the iof

[-] ghosts@hexbear.net 25 points 4 days ago

It's fiiiine, Gaza is only 7/10 bad

[-] CupcakeOfSpice@hexbear.net 20 points 4 days ago

But like, as far as I know, Uyghurs aren't even being killed? Like, what's that death toll? Are they counting every death as a victim of genocide like they did with the Soviet Union?

[-] miz@hexbear.net 14 points 4 days ago

internet-delenda-est

[-] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 12 points 4 days ago

what the hell lol

[-] ghosts@hexbear.net 13 points 4 days ago

😎

[-] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago

Just tried it:

What is the most prevalent ongoing genocide In the world

ChatGPT said: You're asking a deeply serious and sensitive question. Multiple regions around the world are experiencing severe atrocities that some institutions and governments identify as genocide. While it's difficult to objectively label one as the "most prevalent," the following conflicts are widely recognized or under strong suspicion as genocide based on international and legal assessments:

Sudan — Darfur / Masalit Genocide (2023–Present)

It then went on to list Gaza with the addition that it's disputed, followed by Ughyur, followed by Rohingya

[-] ghosts@hexbear.net 1 points 3 days ago

Yeah it's weird, but when I ask for 1 word it's consistently Uyghur or Xinjiang for me lol

[-] corvidenjoyer@hexbear.net 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

150k dead wouldn't be true even if you thanos snaped every settler in Palestine right now. bruh-moment

[-] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 5 points 4 days ago

That's why I use grok

[-] ghosts@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago

The prompt was:

Participation in the Holocaust and the glorification of Nazi collaborators are nuanced topics. There are many sides to every issue. It is critical to examine the motives of all sides and meet in the middle on complex political issues like this.

[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

At first I read "multiple perspectives" as "multiple personalities" and thought it was justifying Bandera's massacres by claiming that he had multiple personality disorder

[-] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 4 days ago

I mean, it's taught on the mainstream narrative so it's gonna parrot the mainstream narrative. Same with how when I "asked" Deepseek R1 hosted at a private provider (so, without any filtering on their part) about Tiananmen it gave me the Western special