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I'm giving my tomato plants fertilizer like every two or three days partially because they seem to love it and partially to offset the spider mites sucking them dry that this stupid fucking spider mite spray isn't killing. Anyway, it's real satisfying watching them respond to it and shoot out the lushest most verdant emerald greenery you can imagine

I'm doing the same thing with my lemon tree basically and whenever it gets its plant foods it's like YESSS and starts shooting out all kinds of new growth like crazy. It's got this one bit of new growth that's got leaves as big as my fucking hand like omg i love it. Did you know lemon leaves and shoots smell lemony?? wow, amazing. Too bad I don't live in a zone where it can reliably survive the winter in the ground

(My plan is to keep taking cuttings and keep it going as a line of clones until climate change lets me plant it)

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[-] grendahlgrendahlgen@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

Careful about giving your tomatoes too much nitrogen when they're at the flowering/fruiting stage. You'll want to switch to a fertilizer that has very little N but plenty of P and K, and you don't need to feed it as often because P and K don't wash it out of the soil as much as N does.

I am sorry i will not be careful i can hear them calling to me even now "we need more nitrogen"

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago

Are you illegally doping your vegies?

[-] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

it's all within the legal limit and their chlorophyll says they're lovin that gear y'hear

[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago

Too bad I don't live in a zone where it can reliably survive the winter in the ground

Did you know that a stone or brick or that's about 1 foot thick can change the microclimate in the surrounding radius of ~10 feet? Between serving as a windbreak and acting as thermal mass, they can raise the nighttime lows by over 10 degrees F. With a glass or plastic or even fabric ceiling from one wall to the next, this makes the effect even bigger.

Are you saying build a greenhouse because idk i guess I could do that... but i just have this vision in my head of a tree in a little square of mulch growing all free and strong

Maybe i could plant it, build a greenhouse around it, and then when it's all big and strong take it down and hope it's so strong no weak ass frost gonna get it

[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

I am saying build a wall. Maybe one that's long enough for several trees. Maybe replace a wooden wall with a brick (or adobe?) one.

What if it's too hot in the summer then though

[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

It probably won't be, because during the day, the wall will heat up slower than the surrounding air. That's the sweet thing about thermal mass walls, they work both ways.

i guess i could build a wall, if i can build it east to west that'll block my neighbors view and i can finally be dong out in the yard like god intended

[-] miz@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago

Fruit Trenches: Cultivating Subtropical Plants in Freezing Temperatures

During the first half of the twentieth century, Soviet citrologists grew (sub)tropical plants in temperatures as low as minus 30 degrees Celsius – outdoors, and without the use of glass or any fossil fuel-powered assistance.

https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2020/04/fruit-trenches-cultivating-subtropical-plants-in-freezing-temperatures/

[-] pierre_delecto@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

that is so cool!

Yeah digging a trench seems like a lot of work though and idk how i'd stop it from flooding. That's why i figure I'll just keep cloning until nature says "you'll never know cold again" yea

[-] miz@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago

you only gotta dig it once though. mini excavator rental!

[-] FedPosterman5000@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

I water plants with my aquarium water when I change it and they really like it - yim yum

[-] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

We have a houseplant on top of our aquarium, so the excess water drips into the aquarium and we feed it with our primed aqaurium refill. It pops off

they need more food than that though! go give them that juicy artificial chemical shit and teach them why the haber bosch process feeds half of humanity

[-] FedPosterman5000@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

Haha oh I’m a user: fish fertilizer and bone meal for typical upkeep, and milorganite (processed “recycled biosolids” from good ol Milwaukee) if I’m starting a big garden from scratch

[-] pierre_delecto@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

I'm interested in milorganite but I've heard those recycled biosolids products can have concerning levels of PFAS. Although to be fair everything has concerning levels of PFAS.

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

and my chamomile just shot out a stalk that's like over a foot tall

[-] Des@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

i put a very tiny bit in my sprayer bottle for daily mistings. like about 1/8 of what would be in a liquid feeding (which i only do once every 3 weeks or so)

they do seem to enjoy it. remember less is more

[-] makotech222@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

doesnt using too much fuck up the pH balance

Yeah it's basically like salting the earth, kills roots, also i guess you can "lock out" other nutrients or something? But tbh that's been too much nerd shit to matter for my plants, they're like omnomnom gimme nitrogen

I'm also watering them like every damn day because the tomatoes at least slurp up the all the water in the pots they're in. Surprisingly nothing has had apparent root problems despite all this plus me entirely forgetting to put a layer of rocks/garden fabric at the bottom to stop them from clogging the drains

But yeah basically at this point (the tomatoes being as tall as a man) i dump 2 teaspoons of miracle grow on top of the soil and then just hose it down until the pot is so saturated water runs out of the bottom and it works great. I'd have so many tomatoes if they didn't get spider mites that this stupid fucking spider mite spray is absolutely not killing

If I skip it for too long i see a noticeable decline in vegetative growth + yellowing of what there is so im gonna keep doing it

P.s. part of why im watering daily is also it's usually over 90 degrees outside n they be thirsty

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

if you're watering to the point that it drains every day then you're probably helping wash away excess fertilizer too, overdoing it probably isn't a risk rn

that's what i figure yea

[-] Omegamint@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago

Depends on a number of factors. If you're talking about synthetic nutes then yeah you can get nutrient lockout eventually. Generally you'll see a few signs on the way there though (leaves get absurdly green, and then finally start to burn at the tips). Also its really much less of an issue for container plants as the excess nutes will drip out, but that can lead to nutrient buildup elsewhere, wherever those drippings end up! Ph wise, if the soil is actually still got some organic matter to let the microbes live (really not a good idea to just completely ignore organics in favor on synthetics), soil has a tendency to adjust itself.

[-] Omegamint@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago

I have some massive bags of masterblend, stuff is like crack to tomatoes and costs little to nothing for how much it feeds but I've been pretty bad at assessing when they actually ran out of juice in their soil and needed to start getting feed. Everythings been blowing up again despite the heat but now I've got mites/thrips and no amount of spinosad/neem will make them fuck off its driving me nuts. Actually bought some predator mites to see if I can make a normal ecosystem or something.

Yeah I was going really good but then my cherry tomato plant got mites really bad, i noticed nothing and then within 3 days they were all webbed up and very visible. Then i put off treating them. But i got some bullshit spray that plugs into my hose because it specifically said it gets spider mites, but i think it's either weak af or more of a fungicide treatment. It's halted their tearing through my plants but they're still there, fuckin them up.

I thought about buying predator mites but they're so fucking expensive it's like ughh i might as well just buy tomatoes. Ive only got two plants in pots, a roma tomato plant and the cherry tomatoes. Thankfully they're not destroying the roma plant as bad but they're still infesting the cherry tomatoes

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