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[-] LeylaLove@hexbear.net 9 points 2 hours ago

Glad I'm not wasting my life on that shit anymore. I've been addicted to many things, and alcohol would make me waste away worse than fentanyl. I'd just grab a fifth (or two or three) and just drink until I passed out. And I'd get so depressed when I drank, it wasn't even fun, I'd get drunk and instantly want to kill myself and often times start hurting myself in some way. I'd go days without eating because I was too drunk to remember I was hungry, and constantly nauseous from consuming nothing but vodka. I didn't remember anything I ever did, I'd just forget absolutely everything.

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 2 points 1 hour ago

You sound just like me when I used to drink. There was a point in my addiction I weighed only 140lbs, was malnourished, subsiding off liquor and when the hunger pangs got too extreme microwaveable rice.

Today I'm a fat guy and I actually eat food sober.

[-] LeylaLove@hexbear.net 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah, I've gained 40 pounds since getting sober, at one point I was down to 120lbs.

[-] Lyudmila@hexbear.net 35 points 4 hours ago

Alcoholism Reaching All-Time Lows in Declining American Empire

Lyudmila Pavlyuchenkova | Pravda North America

Once 2/3 of the population, alcoholics now make up a mere simple majority of the US population. This supposed tragedy for the alcohol industry comes not off the back of an effective public health initiative, but instead due to the immiseration of the American youth.

As older Americans die off due to age, younger Americans simply cannot afford to take their place in the economy of self-harm.

"Literally half of my local grocery store is filled with overpriced alcoholic versions of drinks primarily marketed to children. Every other end cap is spiked energy drinks, hard lemonade, twisted iced tea. Alcoholic Capri Sun and whatever Hard Kombucha is. Man, I can't even afford Keystone Light," said local man Haywood Jablome.

[-] Biggay@hexbear.net 20 points 4 hours ago

God i fucking love name gags like this

[-] segfault11@hexbear.net 1 points 1 hour ago

not gonna think about this until the kelly comic comes out

[-] darkmode@hexbear.net 1 points 1 hour ago

idk how anyone gets shit done drinking more often than weekends and parties. I get too eepy the next day limmy-awake

[-] Euergetes@hexbear.net 4 points 2 hours ago

haha more for me

sicko-wistful im kinda on a tolerance break myself lmao

Yeah I've been cutting back a bit lately so that tracks

[-] PKMKII@hexbear.net 13 points 4 hours ago

My alcohol consumption is way down from 10-15 years ago. Beer occasionally, hard liquor and wine is at this point a special event thing. Doesn’t help that, being a taller/larger person, it takes a shit ton of liquor to get me buzzed and I ended up feeling shitty before I’m intoxicated.

[-] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 15 points 4 hours ago

High alcohol consumption is a recession indicator, so this must be good for the economy.

[-] OnceUponATimeInWeHo@hexbear.net 2 points 2 hours ago

I’m doing my part o7

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 14 points 4 hours ago

Colon cancer runs in my family, no thank you lol.

[-] Monstertruckenjoyer@hexbear.net 34 points 5 hours ago

I'm keeping the numbers up all on my own mothafuckas

[-] Rey_McSriff@hexbear.net 22 points 5 hours ago

Cracking open a six pack tonight to do my part

[-] take_five_moments@hexbear.net 55 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)
[-] Chump@hexbear.net 18 points 5 hours ago

Great job :)

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 19 points 5 hours ago
[-] nothx@hexbear.net 11 points 4 hours ago

I’m part of that statistic and proud of it.

[-] upmysleeves@hexbear.net 11 points 5 hours ago

more good news screm-cool

[-] Des@hexbear.net 31 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

honestly there's just better buzzes out there with less side effects, especially for social fun

  • cannabis (not quite the same, but great social lubricant if everyone starts sober and gets high together)

  • kratom (more medical utility but can be fun for outdoor adventures in groups. starts as a stim and ends with some sleepiness, so plan properly) (DISCLAIMER: not recommended for experimentation but has current and historical uses as an alcohol alternative) for more info check out layla's guide

  • kava (basically IRL synthahol from star trek. dials right in to the 1-2 drink buzz with no risk of further. downside is reverse tolerance and doesn't work for everyone)

  • some kind of GABA-B substance (more risky since most are research chems (F-phenibut comes to mind), often very long lasting, but all the inhibition of alcohol without being drunk and hard to black out on unlike GHB agonists).

(all have a risk of addiction as any substance but comedowns/withdrawals are significantly less then alcohol, as well as not being potentially lethal. also OD risk is either physically impossible or extremely difficult)

[-] BigWeed@hexbear.net 30 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

kratom

I don't know how to say this nicely. Don't do kratom unless you're already an opioid addict and you need to come off. It's not a safe drug to experiment with recreationally because it's so easy to get addicted to. I'm a heavy drug user and promote experimenting with drugs except for opioids (and kratom) because of how many people I've seen absolutely ruin their lives on it.

[-] Des@hexbear.net 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

i know vastly more people that use kratom occasionally and responsibly then don't. not everyone has that spark inside that lights up when mu receptors are tripped. just because we have it doesn't apply to everyone.

much of the recent media blitz against kratom is due to the kratom lobby's deal with RFK jr to ban 7-OH in exchange for saving leaf kratom. not sure if this is going to work.

increase in addiction to "kratom" is mostly due to ease of access to 7-OH and highly potent liquid concentrates at gas stations. in high doses, kratom's natural antagonists are overwhelmed by the partial opioid agonists (or in the case of 7-OH, full agonists). thus, it behaves more like a classical opioid. and since the average person's first exposure to kratom these days is potent concentrate shots, they can more easily become physically addicted.

occasional use of leaf (or full spectrum concentrates) has low risk of physical addiction. leaf at less then 1-2 g a day could take months to develop physical addiction.

i used kratom to get off stronger opioids, and to prevent cravings or a relapse. for .50 a day it was a fine bargin to make. all my plugs disappeared, i fell away from the scene entirely, and can now taper slowly at my leisure.

but it is vastly more difficult to become instantly addicted off kratom because it's short acting, partial agonism, and delta action. too much and it's like you've taken Salvia, right down to the "flushing" effect, dizziness, and disassociation. it's like a built in braking system. also nearly impossible to OD.

not sure how this is ruining lives. there will always be exceptions. compared to every other opioid out there, it is the safest and best tolerated and that's an absolute scientific fact

[-] BigWeed@hexbear.net 4 points 3 hours ago

I definitely think it should be legal and accessible because it's a valuable tool for people on opioids. I don't think we have a kratom epidemic. But in a conversation about alcohol alternatives with people who aren't as informed about drug experimentation, I'd voice that kratom as a lot more potential consequences from say kava, cannabis, etc.

[-] Des@hexbear.net 4 points 3 hours ago

i don't disagree with you there. look i mod the drugs com, and our #1 priority is harm reduction. and i know we aren't on it right now

i added disclaimers, i can add more for kratom. but it is undeniably used as an alternative to alcohol for many people (i often read the AKA testimonials and i was surprised myself), i can't conceal that fact.

Have you really seen people ruin their lives from just kratom use?

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 4 points 3 hours ago

Yeah. Dude's aren't ODing on it, but they just sit in their apartment everyday doing nothing but kratom. It ruins tour social life, it ruins your work life, and it just straight up ruins your life because it's so hard to stop using.

[-] Des@hexbear.net 4 points 3 hours ago

how's that even possible? by your second dose you feel nothing. your bloodstream is loaded with anatongists it's like being on narcan. only people that i'm aware of doing this are in severe, chronic pain.

it's not heroin there is no escalating high. at most you feel like you took 1 vicodin. this has got to be people pounding down 7-OH tablets, which is 0.05% of kratom by weight and purely synthetic

[-] BigWeed@hexbear.net 2 points 3 hours ago

fwiw, I hear kratom hits different if you've never been on dope

[-] No_Bark@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Yes. I had a buddy who started taking it to ween away from his alcoholic tendency to enjoy a 5th of whiskey every night, and he quickly became addicted.

He told me the withdrawals felt worse than what he was dealing with from the alcohol (though he was getting hit with both), ended up losing his job and spiraling into a recluse who spent all his time in bed or doing kratom. He eventually got help and got better.

There's this idea that its a "safe" drug, and posts encouraging its use in threads like these as some sort of alternative to getting drunk don't help that perception. Its very addictive and the withdrawal symptoms suck just as much if not more than with booze, although I don't think you can die from Kratom withdrawal the way you can from alcohol. Someone fact check me on that.

Edit: What makes it dangerous is how quickly you can become physically dependent on Kratom.

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