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Silksong running silky smooth on Eden on a Retroid 5

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[-] RiotDoll@hexbear.net 46 points 3 months ago

game is really cool

piracy is fine. i think the indie/aaa divide is an artificial cope designed to inject a sense of moral discernment where it doesn't belong.

it's probably goty so imo if you can support a guy for making his magnum opus do it but otherwise like, there are more important things than lawful commerce for lots of people right now

[-] Comrade_Mushroom@hexbear.net 33 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I also think that there's a really, REALLY vast difference between an indie game with 1-3 people working on it out of a living room and an "indie" game where it's up to 50 people working out of an office with the marking+translation+accessibility+QA+etc. support of a major triple-A corporation.

[-] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago

Indi? You mean petite bourgeois, smol lil guy.

stardew valley sold 41 million copies as of 2025, one of the potential romantic partners is a highschool aged child who lives with her parents.

[-] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 15 points 3 months ago

As far as I could find none of the characters have canon ages and the dev said they were at least 20 so seems a bit much to get mad about

[-] RiotDoll@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago

please tell me how you define 'indie' in terms of the games industry please, because i'm very confused at your post but we can start there.

indie doesn't necessarily have class implications to me, although if i think about it, one can assume that even a one man or two man dev team on a passion project will likely have resources that flags them as bouge but idk this doesnt make sense, maybe it will if you explain how you define indie tho

[-] Drewfro66@lemmygrad.ml 45 points 3 months ago

This post is going to make a certain type of person so mad

[-] Frivolous_Beatnik@hexbear.net 39 points 3 months ago

I bought the game but piracy isn't a problem lol. It's not like they aren't making enough money on it, especially considering steam broke with how many people were buying it day one.

Hope you're enjoying it!

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago

Will start it soon, just booted it up to make sure it runs OK.

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago

snes button layout spotted awooga

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago

All these little handhelds got the Nintendo button layout lol

[-] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 17 points 3 months ago

I'm often all for piracy, but Silksong? Come on man. They actually put their heart into their games and charge a reasonable price.

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 75 points 3 months ago

Don't care. What little money I have is best spent on necessities.

[-] I_Voxgaard@hexbear.net 31 points 3 months ago

correct answer

[-] tetris11@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

whilst true, you didnt have to post this so proudly

stealing apples from your local farmer is a crime everyone probably commits at some point, but you don't and shouldn't brag about it

[-] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 43 points 3 months ago

whilst true, you didnt have to post this so proudly

Oh my god can you can it with the liberal tears, the gnashing and wailing over something that isn't even fucking theft?

Stealing apples deprives a farmer of an actual physical good, data is infinitely replicable at essentially no cost. The devs already got paid, what, you think the people actually programming this shit haven't gotten a paycheck the entire time? That isn't how this works unless it's a solo dev doing all this shit by themselves, which I promise you they're not after a massively successful first game

[-] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 37 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

FYI some studies have shown piracy raises revenue for the 'official version' by exposing it to more people that would have without it, some of whom go on to purchase or spread via word of mouth etc to others that will

[-] take_five_moments@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)
[-] take_five_moments@hexbear.net 28 points 3 months ago

idk i steal apples all the time

[-] john_brown@hexbear.net 28 points 3 months ago

Apples aren't copied, if you steal an apple from someone you are depriving them of an apple. Copies of games don't deprive anybody of anything other than money.

[-] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago

My grandma has a house in a rural zone and I would pass through an apple orchard and just pick up some apples that were on the ground. They would be left to rot otherwise

[-] I_Voxgaard@hexbear.net 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

the game is still there for people who want it.

and with the amount of food waste in modern economies this really isn't the analogy you want it to be

[-] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 24 points 3 months ago

Smol bean farmer = multi-million dollar studio?

[-] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That's a pretty expensive handheld is it not?

Just saying.

Edit: Everyone chill, I'm just broke and jealous haha.

[-] pinguinu@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 3 months ago

Aw the poor little devs only made millions with their first game

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 29 points 3 months ago

And they crashed Steam's checkout system yesterday. They're going to be alright.

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 31 points 3 months ago

Mid level-ish? $200? Compared to something like an Odin or an ROG, or some of the newer Anbernics, I dont think so.

There's also some other Retroid users on this site.

[-] roux@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Also the Retroid Pocket 5's hardware makes it a pretty much one and done purchase. I have 4-5 emulators and I probably spent 3x that on them all said and done. Their hardware runs the gamut of barely emulating N64 to being able to play almost all retro up to but not the Retroid Pocket 4. $200 for something that will be good for the next 10 years is smart.

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago

Been playing a lot of Switch stuff on the 5 and its been a tank. Some crashes but I can chalk that up to switch emu itself rather than the specs

[-] roux@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago

If it can emulate Switch I actually might grab it as my Christmas gift lol. Not only is that dope as fuck but while we are processing this divorce, I'm realizing that since our oldest plays my Switch mostly, a lot of his hours clocked are on that. Might just let him keep it and grad an RP5 lol.

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah, im happy to talk about it! Eden is my emulator of choice, it makes getting the latest drivers super easy. It also just got a new update 3 days ago thats pretty rad. Helps with some compatability issues. You can also get older versions of emulators to try out if needed, depending on the game. Its a pretty fun little project, but I enjoy tinkering here and there.

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 31 points 3 months ago

Oh, if your point is that i have no money, then its about a year old.

[-] I_Voxgaard@hexbear.net 30 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

you won't believe this but they has a fridge and microwave too

[-] take_five_moments@hexbear.net 28 points 3 months ago

who gives a fuck

[-] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 24 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

No, not really. Pretty much the cheapest of it's kind imo. Anything x86 is going to be at least double, if not triple or more. Switch 2 is double the price. Anything cheaper is making significant compromises and imo isn't comparable.

edit: just going to keep talking because I've been very interested in these devices lately. I'd say the closest comparison devices would be like the odin 2 which has a more powerful chip but is $300, or the Thor which starts at $250 for the same chip as the Retroid pocket 5 (handheld OP has). Anbernic recently put out an all metal handheld for $280, worse processor and smaller screen though. Those are probably the three its most comparable to it. RP5 is a really good value for what's currently on the market.

[-] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago

FWIW I own an ungodly amount of these stupid little handheld consoles. Anbernic stuff is the best IMO but the retroid is also pretty neat.

Main beef with the retroid is just that it runs android. The devices with minimal Linux systems are way cooler IMO.

[-] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

The pocket 5 runs rocknix as well, as does the Odin 2. Linux definitely has some good things going for it but I'm coming around on android a bit, the sleep is much better.

I have an Anbernic xx device and love it, its just a different beast then the RP5. snes/gba is where I feel like my xx shines, not gamecube/wii/ps2/light switch.

[-] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago

I've personally never had sleep issues with my Linux handhelds but as a daily Linux desktop user I'm painfully aware that it's not on par with android.

All the android bloat just drives me nuts. I just don't really love having the playstore and email and all that on my gaming device.

The simplicity of the Linux devices and the way they just do one thing really appeals to me.

FWIW I don't actually care much to play any games past PS1/N64 on handheld. Anything later just feels better suited for a desktop or steam deck (totally different class of device IMO).

[-] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 32 points 3 months ago

The developer (Team Cherry) has three employees. Off of concurrent player count on Steam alone (so not including Playstation, Xbox, Switch sales) they made $10 million in a day. They're going to be ok if somebody pirates their game.

[-] MasterBlaster@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 months ago

pro-piracy morals aren't rooted in the idea that publishers/developers are opponents who behave poorly enough that they 'deserve' piracy of their products, so there is no product so uniquely good and crafted by 'the good ones' that you should be expected not to pirate it.

pro-piracy morals are rooted in the fact that art is now free to infinitely distribute. continued artificial restriction of art & culture will not be tolerated by anyone educated enough

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[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago

Wow did you do a crime? Straight to gulag. gulag

[-] Kopfrkingl@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago

The call to morality doesn't work when you consider there are quite a few countries that the payment processors don't support.

[-] BadTakesHaver@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago

the reason hornet was in jail in the intro cutscene is because she pirated hollow knight

[-] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

Ooh, I just ordered a retroid 4. How are you liking the 5?

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

Its great! Runs everything ive thrown at it well, aside from things that just have trouble being emulated. Just finished Bayonetta 2, switch version, and it ran smooth as hell. I went from a 3+ to a 5 and it helped a lot with certain GC games and Wii stuff too. By helped I mean "squeezed more frames out." Had it since release and have had 0 issues.

[-] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago

I'm so excited, I got the 4 pro, mostly for ps2 and dreamcast emulation. so many great games I missed or couldn't get far in because I was too young to understand them

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

The 4 will do you great, enjoy!

[-] mudpuppy@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

are people actually saying its super not ok to pirate this? this definitely seems like a game where theres a very strong argument that the devs deserve money, but its still a personal decision

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago

Apparently I ruffled some feathersshrug-outta-hecks

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