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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/36603369

Italy is sending a ship to accompany the Gaza-bound Global Sumud Flotilla, who said its activists remain shaken but determined following an Israeli attack on Wednesday morning.

Organisers of expedition, which is attempting to carry aid to the Gaza Strip, shared footage this morning appears to show an explosion that detonated on one of the flotilla's vessels.

Late on Tuesday activists heard explosions and saw drones that targeted some of their boats, currently situated off Greece. "Multiple drones, unidentified objects dropped, communications jammed and explosions heard from a number of boats," the Global Sumud Flotilla said.

"I have authorised the immediate intervention of the Navy's frigate Fasan, which was sailing north of Crete and is heading towards the area," Italian Defence Minister Guido Crosetto said in a statement.

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[-] 21Gramsci@hexbear.net 95 points 1 week ago

This is the first time maybe in my lifetime that I've seen a real W for organized labor in Italy, I have to admit I had basically lost any hope. Italy used to have one of the most radical labor movements in Europe (we used to disappear industrialists ffs), but by the time I was born our unions had become neutered, bureaucratic and corrupt entities whose whose main output was bootstrapping the career of useless centrist politicians.

I am still almost in disbelief of how effective the Genoa dockworkers union was. They made an open threat: "if anything happens to a single boat in our flotilla we shut down Europe", as soon as the first strikes on the flotilla happened in Tunis they called in a National strike, and they fucking pulled it off. Half the country's services were shut down on Monday. Almost a million people were in the streets. If our very zionist government went so far as to send a warship to escort the flotilla it means the fuckers were actually rattled. They wouldn't do this unless they seriously thought things could escalate in the country.

Labor organizing scares fascists, folks...

Shout out to the workers of Collettivo Autonomo Lavoratori Portuali (CALP) of Genoa for reigniting a tiny spark of hope in this godforsaken country. Solidarity forever. I'm trying to see if they have a strike fund that people can contribute to but I can't find one, they are "calp_genova" on Insta and "CALPinfo" on Telegram.

[-] jack@hexbear.net 47 points 1 week ago

Palestine is the compass. This struggle has elevated all others around the world.

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[-] RustySerpent@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 1 week ago

Italian labor's work has somewhat seeped through the news over the past 2 years if you looked close enough. Though widely overlooked. Watching this develop and finally culminate in this incredible display was humbling and inspiring as hell. Power to you and the world should bow before your example. Nothing but love!

It also should signal to everyone: Our work mattered! These unions exist as continuation and through the sacrifices of millions of leftists over the decades. The 90s and early 00s may have felt like total defeat and like nothing ever mattered. That has been proven wrong. It did matter, it did leave a mark, it lives on in those dockworkers and it will transform the world again.

Solidarity to all the colleagues and comrades. Keep pushing, you will make the world follow.

[-] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 89 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Where are the people who keep telling me that China cannot do anything about a genocide that has become an international issue?

[-] somename@hexbear.net 56 points 1 week ago

Yeah, it's pretty clear that one of the biggest failings of China as a socialist project is their complete unwillingness to use their power for greater liberation movements in the world, beyond economic investment. Not that economic investment isn't good, as it definitely is, but they could be doing so much more. In fact, China themselves did such things decades back, when they were in a much weaker position. Now that they are reaching global ascendancy, they still just focus on internal affairs. It's a failure of international solidarity.

[-] Tabitha@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago

I think it's possible that China thinks they need to hide their power level a little while longer before they fold the rest of the world into the cool zone.

[-] WildWeezing420@hexbear.net 42 points 1 week ago

This is the perpetual cope, but China shows no sign that this is what they're doing. All of their long term plans are steady sailing ahead on the same path

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[-] somename@hexbear.net 30 points 1 week ago

I’m personally skeptical of that, though it would be nice if it’s true. Just, the system shapes those who work in it, and a system that discourages this kind of international solidarity is going to reinforce those sentiments among the decision makers.

I think the most hope would be in a younger, more ideologically driven wing rising to take the reins, one that’s witnessed the consequences of China’s failure to act, and feel a drive to change things. With the current leadership I’m doubtful they’ll shift course.

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[-] Jabril@hexbear.net 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Italy is doing this in response to work on the ground by activists. Have you been organizing for Palestine in China? I'm not Chinese but I am from one of the countries directly responsible for the genocide and me and my comrades risk getting beaten, killed, doxxed, and/or arrested for Palestine.

As much as I would love for some government to step in and stop the genocide it feels like pretty naive to think that will happen without a mass movement of people on the ground demanding it from their own country.

[-] somename@hexbear.net 42 points 1 week ago

I would like to think a socialist superpower wouldn’t need mass protests in the streets to do the bare minimum against fascism and apartheid. China hasn't even broken economic ties with Israel.

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[-] gayspacemarxist@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago

I obviously don't know what they're thinking, but this is how I see the situation: If China escalates with Israel the US and NATO will immediately declare war on China, it would be the perfect excuse, and its not super likely that anyone else would be prepared to join in their defense. Waiting for other countries to mobilize against Israel, and joining in only when its clearly a popular move, is better for China's style of soft power than trying to lead the global south into direct conflict with Empire. Especially when the conflict is essentially inevitable as the truth about Palestine comes out and anti genocide sentiment turns into mobilization.

Like I said idk what China is thinking, but from my perspective waiting is the smart move even though I find it extremely distasteful.

[-] WildWeezing420@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Again, nobody is seriously asking for China to declare war on Israel (though that would be cool!)

Why can they not just cut off trade and investments and forbid Chinese companies and citizens from working with Israeli ones? Just some simple sanctions is all it would take to appease us, and presumably their own citizens who overwhelmingly do not approve of this genocide.

I don't think a conflict over Palestine is inevitable. The 12-day war with Iran was inflection point where risk of war was at it's peak. Since then, the resistance forces have weakened considerably and Israel is increasingly getting away with it. Iran had a short window to actually destroy the zionist entity and it balked, so now we are in a period of Zionist victory laps.

A future where Palestine is destroyed and Greater Israel metastasizes across West Asia seems more likely to me at this point than a global conflict over Palestine. If nations were willing to fight over Palestine, they would have done it by now. The only forces that were committed enough to actually fight over Palestine did so and were isolated and picked off one-by-one. Only the cowards and fence-sitters remain.

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[-] ConcreteHalloween@hexbear.net 86 points 1 week ago

I declare a moratorium on mocking Italians till further notice.

If need be mock the French instead.

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago

I second this

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[-] mahmoud@hexbear.net 86 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Thank you to everyone who cared and supported our cause. Thank you to the steadfastness fleet that faces dangers for us. Thank you to everyone who helped and supported us. Thank you, my friends, for what you have given us ❤❤✌

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[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 85 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

lets-fucking-go What a development out of Italy! unfamiliar-with-your-game

[-] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 82 points 1 week ago

Wdym organizing gets results??? They should have just waited years to vooote.

[-] SmithrunHills@hexbear.net 35 points 1 week ago

But don't you see organizing takes way too time and we just want to get back to brunch

[-] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 76 points 1 week ago

That's awesome. This must be a result of the huge protests that have been for Palestine in Italy recently and a demonstration of people power. Every country should be sending a ship as an escort, but this is a good start.

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[-] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 72 points 1 week ago

Let this be a lesson to all the electoralism copers that mass working class militant action can push even a fascist Italian government to send a warship, a fucking warship, to protect an international contingent of civilians from the Wests darling settler colonial cancer on the Levant. It would be a shame for the bourgeois if people in other countries copied this...

[-] Rojo27@hexbear.net 68 points 1 week ago

I can't believe Hamas is governing Italyhamas-base

Honestly I don't want to give too much credit considering who actually governs Italy, but still. Good to see one of these flotillas getting some support like this and I hope it becomes a trend.

[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 86 points 1 week ago

Credit goes to the millions of people on strike in Italy, it would seem. If Meloni let Italians die at sea, you might have a full-blown uprising in Italy.

[-] Rojo27@hexbear.net 59 points 1 week ago

Power to the peoplefidel-salute

[-] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 50 points 1 week ago

Finally some good news. It shows that direct action works, folks.

[-] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 44 points 1 week ago

I wonder what'll happen if Israel sinks it, USS liberty 2 or entering the global cool zone?

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago

The fact they're sending this ship in the first place tells me they won't sit quietly if that happens; the USS liberty wasn't sent in defiance to Israel.

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[-] volcel_olive_oil@hexbear.net 40 points 1 week ago

spirit-bomb summoning Petro's coalition of armies to defeat Israel into reality

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I KNEW WE'D COME AROUND ONE DAY! ITALIAN REDEMPTION ARC WHEN? <- Lives in burgerland

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[-] Dr_Gabriel_Aby@hexbear.net 38 points 1 week ago

My first post years ago was a rabid defense of Italy and deflecting blame on their failures to the operations of western powers during the interwar period and then GLADIO postwar . I feel vindicated in my assessment, and thank Trump for dislodging European people from American sympathies.

[-] Red_October@hexbear.net 36 points 1 week ago

Things are always complicated but you weren’t wrong in that everywhere would be a lot more left by now if it weren’t for Imperialist fuckery.

[-] Dr_Gabriel_Aby@hexbear.net 36 points 1 week ago

Like South Africa all over again. Goodbye apartheid, you will always lose.

[-] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 week ago
[-] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago

Nothing ever happens gang in shambles.

[-] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago
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[-] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 31 points 1 week ago

Apparently Spain is now also sending a military escort

[-] roux@hexbear.net 31 points 1 week ago

This is both surprising and scary. Hope y'all news junkies keep us posted because this could be a potential powder keg scenario.

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[-] PKMKII@hexbear.net 30 points 1 week ago
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[-] xarm@hexbear.net 30 points 1 week ago

feel like this is the first positive international news i have heard in a long while

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 28 points 1 week ago

Communist Italy when? gramsci-heh

[-] Finger@hexbear.net 28 points 1 week ago

no more half measures walter

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[-] P1d40n3@hexbear.net 25 points 1 week ago

Israel is gonna sink a frigate. Sorry to be a doomer, but that is what Israel is gonna do.

[-] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 52 points 1 week ago

Such an act ultimately galvanizes and radicalizes the issue. Which is a good thing, since you need to bring down the entire empire anyway.

[-] corvidenjoyer@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago

They could've sunk most of the fleet before they even started moving. Do you want to explain why that didn't happen if it would change nothing if they did?

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[-] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

i was expecting like a patrol boat or a minesweeper or something
that's a pretty serious warship

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[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 19 points 1 week ago

Now accompany it all the way and help distribute the aid

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