I did and it's pretty fucking sickening to me.

:(

I didn't know about this, and I thank you for sharing it.

I go to a weekly philosophy discussion group, and in a few weeks, a friend is running a session on the ethics of animal research. She is doing a PhD and recently did the animal handling training course because her research will involve mice, and she really enjoyed the seminar that covered the legal and ethical aspects of animal research — so much so that it inspired her to volunteer to run a session for the philosophy group.

This is depressing to learn about, but might be an interesting case study for that discussion

I'm not reading why they aren't transitioning to the synthetical alternative in the states. One assumes money, but it's also a very convoluted way to produce the stuff, so I'm curious why this is still the cheaper procedure.

It must be very tough to produce synthetically, but not too hard, as in Europe they are not bleeding crabs anymore. I'm just curious what the margin is that makes the animal abuse worth it.

o7

Yup, you probably already know this but Gila monster saliva is the main part of the research that led to the creation of ozempic!

Okay. So what inspired And So the Children Shall Lead? (TOS, third season.)

It’s about children getting possessed and murdering everybody.

My first thought was VOY when they became lizards too!

Marie Batel might have a word or two to contribute.