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[-] berrytopylus@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A lot of this reporting is a big misunderstanding of statistics.

As the study says

About 45% of the population had zero beef consumption on any given day, whereas the 12% of disproportionate beef consumers accounted for 50% of the total beef consumed

Now just as a thought experiment, do you think that almost half of the US never eats any beef? No, of course not. But on any given day? Sure, quite possible. People's diets vary.

A randomly selected person might have a McDonald's hamburger for lunch and a steak for dinner and be part of the 12% on the first day but then eat mushroom ravioli for lunch and pizza for dinner on the second day and be part of the 45%.

And there might be certain demographics that are more likely to make up that 12% on a given day but that doesn't mean there's a particular nonchanging group of high consumers.

I'm not going to dig into the study here but just as an example, let's say Dog Breed X is 1.5 times more likely to bark than Dog Breed Y is. You can't hear a dog bark and say "Ah it must be Breed X then!", you can only say "Ah, it's more likely from Breed X than Breed Y".

[-] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

I recommend you check the paper and not just go by the usual shit science reporting from MSM, the authors address this issue

One limitation of this work is that it was based on 1-day diet recalls, so our results do not represent usual intake. Averaging both days of data available on the NHANES would not address this problem, would reduce our sample size by 15%, and would mix recall methods between an in-person interview (day 1) and one done on the phone (day 2). Still, as a check, we examined day 2 and found the same associations with gender and MyPlate guidance. Other associations were similar in magnitude, though not always significant. Another potential limitation is that the NHANES is a US study, and the data we analyzed are from 2015–2018. Thus, these results may not be generalizable or useful for targeting interventions in other populations, and do not capture any changes that have occurred in the correlates of beef consumption since the COVID-19 pandemic. At this point in time, however, post-pandemic NHANES dietary data are not available.

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[-] privatized_sun@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

any given day,

I quit drinking almost every day of the week, I almost quit on Monday, I almost quit on Tuesday...

[-] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

For me dairy is the hard one -- meat fucking sucks now, especially for how expensive it is. Like the actual quality of meat seems to have gone down dramatically since like 2017-ish.

[-] TonyToniToneOfficial@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Almond milk and never look back. I've been almond milk exclusive for almost a decade and now I can't stomach the smell of dairy milk.

[-] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago
[-] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Yeah, oat and pea milk don't have the environmental issues almond milk has. A quick look at almond production in the US west made me way less enthusisatic.

[-] Rambi@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah it's still better than dairy though right? I actually really dislike almond milk, I'm not even sure how people like it I hate it so much. I do really like oat milk, soya milk is my favourite though and it's a crime that it's underappreciated lol. The one I buy has the same protein and calcium content as dairy with 2.1% fat, and it has 0g of sugar unlike dairy that has what like 5g per 100ml? It also has much less saturated fat of course. And it's only £0.50 (~$0.60usd) at Aldi

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[-] el_principito@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

Yo this is gross af

[-] Kestrel@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

My dad-in-law ate casseroles and steak for half a century until his heart almost exploded.

Now he only eats cobb salads and monte cristos

think-about-it

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[-] raven@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

If I'm reading it correctly, the abstract says they looked at participants' self reported 24 hour diet, and pegged the beef intake to calories eaten. Does anyone know where one might find data on diets reported over say, a month?

[-] Vampire@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

IMO, those people eat about 4 times the average amount

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[-] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

if we put these people to a vegan diet and everyone else cut out their meat by a good 50% we can probably fix a lot of issues from ecology to diet, then we can move on to pressing matters

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