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[-] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 31 points 2 days ago

Silly reddit, you aren't google, you can't just threaten the Australian government and get whatever you want from us.

[-] JustSo@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago

Yeah but it'll be funny watching them try.

[-] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago

It depends if our bosses in the US decide that reddit is vital for controlling the youth in this country or not. I think they're happy with their work on 4Chan, so they won't bother.

[-] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 27 points 2 days ago

I wish we could just arrest the CEO of reddit for his role in promoting child pornography if he turns up in court.

[-] dead@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago

Based on the comments of this post, I can easily tell which users read the article and who didn't. Commenting on a post without actually reading the article says a lot about a person's behavior.

Reddit and its lawsuit never uses the phrase 'free speech'. The phrase 'free speech' was used by the Reuters article. Reuters is based in the UK and the two people who wrote the article are from Australia. In hindsight, I'm not sure why they used that phrase. If knew that users would get hung up on it, I would probably have changed the title.

If you commented on the phrase 'free speech', then you did not read or understand the article because the lawsuit is not actually related to the US concept of 'free speech'.

The actual lawsuit cities an Australian law called 'Freedom of political communication'. The reuters article says this in the first sentence.

Here's a screenshot from the lawsuit paperwork.

https://redditinc.com/hubfs/Reddit%20Inc/Content/2025.12.12%20-%20Reddit%20-%20Application.pdf

Reddit is suing Australia because it says that Australia is repressing the right for young people to get involved in politics. Does Reddit have the correct motives here? Probably not. They probably just want to sell more ads.

Is it correct that Australia is using the under-16 social media ban to prevent young people from learning about politics? Probably yes. The social media ban prevents young people from learning about things like Palestine and LGBT.

[-] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 21 points 2 days ago

We should file an amicus brief detailing our experience with Reddit and free speech. garf-troll

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago

i would suggest couping their prime minister, that does the trick

[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago

It's worked before!

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago

Thats such a reddit reason to sue, freeze-peach

[-] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's a website for pedophiles, if the kids are banned they won't make any money.

[-] tombruzzo@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago

Whilst the ban is dumb Australia doesn't have a right to free speech like Amerikkka so this won't hold up in our legal system

[-] footfaults@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
[-] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

it's not that simple. We'll see what happens

[-] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I don't know how the law works in Australia but one way this could get funny is asking whether Reddit considers itself as a "common carrier" or not. Is Reddit a publisher, or are they a communications platform? If Reddit insists they are a communications platform (and therefore not liable for what people post), they are insisting is not their speech being censored, so what standing do they have to bring this case?

[-] WrongOnTheInternet@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

That doesn't apply in that way in Australia. The federal government enacted a law that required social media companies to take reasonable steps (left undefined) to ban under 16 year olds from their platforms

[-] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago

I'm no expert. I've just read the constitution (boring, mostly do to with organising the first Parliament. Literally do not understand consty fetishists), the criminal code for my state, some details on contract laws, and a bit of case law that interests me + some convos with lawyers.

There are precedents for things being overturned as unreasonable restrictions on communication and/or political organisation however as you point out there are subtleties in whether something is determined to be a carrier or a publisher. I think reddit would fall under the latter, but it's a fuzzy vague opinion based on vibes I can't really explain.

There's been some back and forth between Australia and our colonial overlords about whether tech companies are liable for publishing criminal stuff/where their responsibility ends.

[-] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

There's been some back and forth between Australia and our colonial overlords about whether tech companies are liable for publishing criminal stuff/where their responsibility ends.

This is an excellent point. Regardless of the letter of the law, there will be substantial political pressure from the US to preserve the hegemony of its tech platforms.

[-] Runcible@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Jim Jordan (US House Rep) already started doing this in November, before Reddit sued.

Edit: obviously to protect tech interests, just a timeline note

[-] WrongOnTheInternet@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

There is no chance banning under 16 year olds from using social media will be found to disproportionately impact the implied right to political communication

[-] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

I agree, but I don't think it's as simple as the consty no say mah freeze peach therefore meritless

[-] dead@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

The lawsuit doesn't mention free speech. It cites this law.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_political_communication

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago
[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago
[-] miz@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

you will not believe how much Jessica Ashooh cares about free speech. just like,, so so much guys

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

More countries should ban reddit

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