Many people on this website hate the Democrats until it's time to believe in a new succdem entryist claiming to be a socialist. Then (for some) the hopium overrides material analysis and historical knowledge. Then the succdem turns out to be an imperialist, as they have for more than a hundred years all over the first world.
Liking Zohran and hating AOC is not the result of coherent analysis. They're two people at two different points on the same trajectory.
Liking Zohran and hating AOC is not the result of coherent analysis
I will say there is the odd possibility of them just hoping a social imperialist executive vs legislator can get some of the treats running again to stave off fervor, thus improving their lives for a blip of time even if it otherwise doesn't progress things.
i.e there might be analysis but the analysis is opportunistic in nature. It's why I've joked about it being American first "socialism"
Constantly yelling about how much you hate AOC and Zohran is not productive and I think most people find it weird. I honestly think communists think more about Zohran and AOC than people who live in NYC
I don't think anyone in this forum actually likes them or think they're going to actually change anything. But the non stop posts about "ERM I WANT IT ON THE RECORD I CALLED IT THAT ZOHRAN IS GONNA BETRAY EVERYONE!!!" is annoying
Its annoying discourse We've already all agreed that Zohran is a demsoc, DSA guy HE RAN ON THAT Nobody ever thought he was anything else
I'm not talking about "most people", just the leftists on here. If people here find it weird that some people really hate succdem imperialists, then IMO that's strange of them. You're right that this post was pointless, but it shouldn't have been controversial. I'd rather not rehash all the old stuff too, we can wait until the next time he says something massively chauvinistic to criticize him and just ignore him in the meantime.
Sadly people on here have and do defend Zohran (this same post about AOC or Bernie would generate zero controversy). Usually "well he's only the mayor so what if he's bad on non-local issues" style arguments.
He's also not a demsoc. He's just another social democrat, and not even a very radical one. People hate on AOC here every time she's brought up and anyone who tried to defend her would rightfully be dismissed. Give it some time and that will likely be the case with Zohran as well.
I don't even live in NYC so idk why I'm constantly being asked to debate the merits of their new mayor.
it's the same as when you grow up in a non-US western country and your media becomes saturated with coverage of the US presidential primaries. sometimes I wonder what proportion of citizens of those countries think they can vote for the US president.
Living in another country is like living in the Roman Empire, while not being a Roman citizen. You get fucked by American politics, but don't have even a symbolic vote. Also a fun fact: Romans had a proto-electoral college with voting being split by tribus and curiae.
This is the most "I'm angry at the news so I'm going to yell at all of you" post I've been present for
People in the third world, whose socialist party actually has multiple seats in parliament and nobody thinks anything of it: 
you guys
I sure as fuck didn't elect anyone.
It's not normal for the US and I still think that's an interesting development.
It's what happens when people lose hope, to meaningfully be able to impact the world around them and it's affairs, so they resort to lambasting their representatives on the internet.
A lot of people think that if talking bad about a leader, in public was made illegal, that it'd be horrible censorship, Liberals cling onto being able to yap like they cling onto nothing else. Oh no my free speech!!
If I was a tyrant I would literally let you guys shit talk me all day and turn it into a theater, because I know you're not going to do anything about it. If I was extra nefarious I'd make you pay for it. Come on $25 to throw a tomato at me, you know it'd sell out marvelously and the media would call me the most humble president of all.
None of this would happen if all Mamdani news gets quarantined to /c/electoralism.
Worried that that would create an echo chamber for American social democracy on the site, which is the last thing we need.
the struggle sessions will continue until every hexbear user has been elected to office
When have socialists ever passed over an opportunity to bicker with each other?
In the Senate? 69. In the House? 420. Until then, strap in.
Are you really trying to reignite the Mamdani struggle session again or are we talking about someone else?
they could elect joseph stalin as the mayor rn and he would be just as useless
Idk, how many 'socialists' immediately use their new-found position to undermine the international position of the organization that raises them up? The reason third world communist elected people are pretty non-controversial is because they don't tend to do that.
okay but he was sexy this time trust me it'll work
because this time is going to be different! this time they won't turn out to be the same as the others! ~...please...~
it'll stop being a struggle session once people realize nobody is ever going to be elected to be the second coming of Lenin
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