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[-] artifex@piefed.social 134 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There are groups of designers who have the job of making symbols and systems that can survive for an extremely long time. One of their tasks was to design “signage” that might let generations thousands of years in the future not go poking around in nuclear waste yards. But the more crazy deadly and dangerous you make an artifact look, the more those future scientists are going to want to get into them.

This is not a place of honor

[-] dwemthy@lemmy.world 106 points 1 week ago
[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 25 points 1 week ago

Better off writing "this place is cursed and will kill those that enter"

[-] SnowmenMelt@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

This guy never watched Indiana Jones

[-] mech@feddit.org 17 points 1 week ago

They wrote that on the entrance to the pyramids. It didn't discourage anyone.

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[-] JohnWorks@sh.itjust.works 64 points 1 week ago

The nuclear spike deterrent field has been a favorite of mine

[-] Thunderbird4@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago

This one looks cool, and I think that’s its biggest problem. It’s clearly a massive, man-made structure with no obvious purpose, yet with striking visual impact. To the hypothetical future civilization that is unaware of the dangerous nuclear waste, it basically begs to be investigated.

[-] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 week ago

man-made structure with no obvious purpose

Probably something religious.

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[-] Rooster326@programming.dev 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Bro of course Excalibur is under the field of death. Where else would you hide something so powerful?

Hop in, let's go

[-] Numberone@startrek.website 8 points 1 week ago

Some real Hyperion Shit going on here. Anyone from the web should prolly move on...😳

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[-] CrackedLinuxISO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 week ago

I watched a documentary about that: Into Eternity

What I thought was interesting about the film was the balance between entertaining a fantastical vision of some future explorer stumbling across the radioactive site, and the mundanity of most of the actual work.

One of the engineers said something like: "When we seal this up with so much concrete, there's no way you're getting in here without machinery. We should be more concerned about a future civilization that comes back here for radioactive materials when they've exhausted all other natural sources"

And then there's a whole section of the film about rules-lawyering the storage site. The dump was chartered by the Finish government to seal waste "for all time", and the engineers were mad that nothing is truly permanent.

[-] alteredraccoon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Man this would be such a killer start or premise for a sci fi book

This place is a message... and part of a system of messages... pay attention to it!

Sending this message was important to us. We considered ourselves to be a powerful culture. This place is not a place of honor... no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here... nothing valued is here.

What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us. This message is a warning about danger. The danger is in a particular location... it increases towards a center... the center of danger is here... of a particular size and shape, and below us.

The danger is still present, in your time, as it was in ours.

The danger is to the body, and it can kill. The form of the danger is an emanation of energy.

The danger is unleashed only if you substantially disturb this place physically. This place is best shunned and left uninhabited.

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[-] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah iirc the absolute best solution proposed was to not put any markings at all and bury it deep enough that any future civilization advanced enough to get to it will probably realize what it is long before they actually get to it.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I was thinking about this and their thinking was way too complicated. The symbol you need is bones. Bones are always associated with death and decay because after death, bones are the thing that's left.

And yes I know they thought of it but I think their dismissal of it is wrong. Their counter argument that it was once a symbol of something else by some culture, therefore. But again by its very nature it's associated with death. Any society capable of this excavation is also capable of thinking "hmm what did they mean? outside of our own culture of course" and will quickly figure out it's bad.

[-] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago

What about when the time of Mammals is done, and the next inhabitant has a chitinous exoskeleton? I'm not sure they'd recognize bones as a sign of this place being dangerous.

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[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 week ago

Yeah, Carl Sagan was like "skull and crossbones"

But of course everyone else wanted to over-engineer it, so you get proposed solutions like encoding messages in the DNA of plants, and color-changing cats with an accompanying viral song that no one's ever heard of twelve years later... 🤦‍♀️

Like, guys, if people today can't even figure out what it means, then it's not a universal and enduring message.

And then some of the suggestions would only serve to make it a glaringly obvious archaeological dig site.

Skull and crossbones is about as universal as you can get. Maybe some atomic diagrams and radiation symbols, and written warnings in as many languages as possible, just in case people still understand them. And a giant slab that someone could only drill through deliberately, requiring heavy equipment.

I can't believe these were supposedly some of the smartest people in the world, and yet they made the mistakes of assuming that future civilizations would be hyperintelligent and thoroughly inquisitive, while also not understanding any symbols from our era and being likely to avoid areas designed to seem ominous. As if egyptologists today respect the warnings on ancient tombs.

And yet they overlooked the skull and crossbones because it seemed too obvious. The whole point is that it's supposed to be obvious!!!

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[-] artifex@piefed.social 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Take a skull-and-crossbones. It might be taken to mean danger or poison. Or it might be taken to mean pirates or treasure. And if the future explorers did connect it with danger or poison, why wouldn't they also just think it was maybe a superstition meant to keep outsiders from getting "the good stuff," like the curses that were sealed into ancient Egyptian tombs?

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[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 week ago

Is this loss?

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[-] ooli3@sopuli.xyz 82 points 1 week ago

"There is a black ichor in center of earth, made from the dying flesh from old beast. When using it you can reach ultimate power, but by using it you slowly doom the world"

[-] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago

Made from dead plants, rather.

[-] lauha@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Or you could hit these yellow rocks together and become death itself.

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[-] MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago

Early nuclear scientists were batshit crazy deranged lunatics. Louis Slotin was researching the criticality of a plutonium core by lowering half a sphere of beryllium over it using the tip of a screwdriver and not a single piece of safety equipment.

It did not end well.

[-] humanamerican@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 week ago

They sacrificed their lives so we could know both the power and danger ofthee subatomic world. They are accidental heroes. Now, someone who did that shit today with full knowledge of the consequences - they would be batshit insane.

[-] plenipotentprotogod@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago

For what its worth, Slotin in particular knew the consequences. If i recall correctly, he had a reputation for being a bit of a "cowboy" when it came to experimental protocol. I believe the lab even had specially made tools for handling the core, but Slotin insisted on using a screwdriver because it was easier.

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[-] MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Maybe, but Slotin knew exactly what kind of dangers he was dealing with. He just chose to be a nuclear cowboy instead.

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[-] Redfox8@mander.xyz 22 points 1 week ago

Sounds like a classic cursed artifact, read this and you will learn great knowledge, but die slowly....

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 week ago

That explains it. All the mystical, mythological stories in the past weren't fanciful fairytales after all. Turns out that ancient people had sophisticated science that we still don't understand. Holy shit, all those history channel shows about ancient aliens or whatever were right!

[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 11 points 1 week ago

The arc of the covenant…. The Italians have to give it back to Ethiopia

[-] Ghostwurm@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago
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