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[-] HarryLime@hexbear.net 118 points 4 weeks ago

If you combine this with the theory that Ghislaine was the /r/worldnews moderator /u/MaxwellHill, this would mean both of them were impactful in the right wing nerd internet culture that has become so mainstream.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 72 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Not sure how to feel right now.

On one hand, there’s a bit of relief that 4chan and the internet fascists aren’t an organic grassroots movement…

…But also it’s another reminder we have been ruled by absolute monsters for ages.

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[-] HoiPolloi@hexbear.net 63 points 4 weeks ago

It's making me lose my mind a bit, feels like losing sanity points in Call of Cthulhu IRL.

[-] invo_rt@hexbear.net 32 points 4 weeks ago

My brain is refusing to engage with that notion. I can't do it jokerfied

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[-] red_giant@hexbear.net 39 points 4 weeks ago

Epstein bought Steve Bannon a Hermes Apple Watch, and Bannon was instrumental in activating GamerGate as a fascist pipeline

[-] Parzivus@hexbear.net 38 points 4 weeks ago

And now Musk owns Twitter too! Conspiracy theorists wouldn't be so daring.

[-] MasterBlaster@lemmygrad.ml 102 points 4 weeks ago

the moot-/pol/-epstein conspiracy finna make me disassociate

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 96 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Yep I’m just gonna fade out right now this might actually be too much lmao holy fuck

Edit: okay so I’m fully on board with Epstein being a Mossad asset at the very minimum a patsy. So that’s square 1 I’m starting from.

4chan has had a role in like 90% of mass shootings and almost every single white terrorism shooting since it came about?

Fucking goddamnit does this fucking mean DOES THIS FUCKING MEAN capitalism created a weird bi-caste of child predators and incel predator-aspirants to be part of its defense system? Is this the white blood cell of capitalism? Is the screw that holds it all together threaded with pedos? What the fuck

[-] Arahnya@hexbear.net 48 points 4 weeks ago

ive come to this conclusion myself long ago

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 37 points 4 weeks ago

For so long I’ve been like pepe-silvia about the whole 4chan/gladio thing

My brain is fried rn

[-] leafperson@hexbear.net 32 points 4 weeks ago

"its just rich pedophiles" "always was"

[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 47 points 4 weeks ago

the wapo article in question....

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[-] TheSpectreOfGay@hexbear.net 29 points 4 weeks ago

i genuinely have a dissociative disorder and this shit is making me think im right what the hell blob-no-thoughts

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[-] ComRed@hexbear.net 89 points 4 weeks ago

I always thought 4chan was some kind of alphabet agency owned asset to turn vulnerable young men into frothing fascists.

This proves it.

[-] DivineChaos100@hexbear.net 49 points 4 weeks ago

That and after the anti-woke/anti-sjw/anti-idpol slop as well thats even so prevalent on the left. They even stopped hiding mostly. Peter Thiel is a Red Scare megafan

[-] aanes_appreciator@hexbear.net 31 points 4 weeks ago

the whole anti paedo shit was always projection

[-] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 88 points 4 weeks ago

I honestly was not expecting moot to be on the Epstein files.

[-] tane@lemy.lol 80 points 4 weeks ago

He originally got banned from the SA forums (then went on to start 4chan) for being a pedo

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 35 points 4 weeks ago

Something Awful banned all hentai, which is what Moot got in trouble for. Drawn CSAM was something he allowed after he built 4chan, which SA was trying to prevent in the first place.

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[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 73 points 4 weeks ago

it doesn't surprise me. I mean what could be a bigger honeypot than 4klan?

[-] stevatoo@hexbear.net 62 points 4 weeks ago
[-] RNAi@hexbear.net 79 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Im going insane lmao

At this point, what evil thing is NOT related to Epstein?

Is Andrew Wakefield on the list too?

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[-] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 68 points 4 weeks ago

man it seems like literally everyone we hate is on the list

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 65 points 4 weeks ago

The linchpin of capitalism is a cabal of pedophiles.

[-] CriticalOtaku@hexbear.net 51 points 4 weeks ago

I have never been closer to adventure-time in my entire life

[-] MasterBlaster@lemmygrad.ml 57 points 4 weeks ago

It's also worth noting Epstein hotlinked the /gif/ board and shared FNAF SFM pornography.

[-] HarryLime@hexbear.net 34 points 4 weeks ago
[-] Wisp@hexbear.net 40 points 4 weeks ago

source filmmaker I assume

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 39 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

sfm is source filmmaker, 3D animation software from valve. naturally immediately used to make cg porn

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[-] larrikin99@hexbear.net 56 points 4 weeks ago

in my mind, the chronology was that 4chan had a board called /news/ which was shutdown because it was a community for racists. Then Poole publicly and in-person confronted the owner of Encyclopedia Dramatica, accusing her of censorship for deleting racism. He realized it looked hypocritical that he also shut down a board, so he says it wasn't the racism itself he opposed, but that the racism was off-topic to a news board, so he created a politics board where racism wouldn't be off-topic.

Please point out if any part of this is wrong.

[-] Parzivus@hexbear.net 42 points 4 weeks ago

Pretty sure this is accurate. TBH I wouldn't be surprised if this had more to do with Nikolic, the other person in these emails. Used to be a tech advisor for Bill Gates and seems to have already known Moot. They meet up and he launches /pol/ a few days later.

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 28 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah IIRC this tracks. I know /pol/ was created for containment, but it obviously didn't work because more racists flocked to the site.

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[-] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 53 points 4 weeks ago

Glad i hit 420chan by like 2007 and missed all that pol stuff anyway before not using chans at all

[-] Fossifoo@hexbear.net 44 points 4 weeks ago

Male cool guy (KID), aged only 23. Female underage woman, already 13.

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[-] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 43 points 4 weeks ago

Not surprising. Any platform with a significant number of users ultimately becomes a potential vector to steer public discourse at large scale. And I do think it's clear that Epstein was more than just a broker for a child abuse island; he was a middleman through which rich and influential people could connect and coordinate.

And it really shouldn't be underestimated just how influential 4chan was. In the latter half of the 2000s, it slowly but surely became the dominant force in creating internet meme culture, taking that crown from Something Awful, and largely influencing how people talked in those days. There was a reason the "f slur" was so common, and that was long before /pol/ even came into existence.

By 2010/2011, Ragefaces were the main "generic" meme format that people used on sites like 9gag, and they originated from 4chan. These would then be switched out for the Wojak/Pepe format that would become mainstream around 2013/2014, Pepe itself being largely perpetuated by /pol/. The frog has largely fallen out of favor for being associated with nazis, but the Wojak format persists, even within leftist communities, over 12 years later. A ton of internet expressions and mannerism originate from 4chan, so it's not surprising that it would become a target for rich people to influence public discourse.

This is the forest that people missed for the trees when Musk took over Twitter. For all the chants of how Musk was wasting a lot of money, how investors would leave, how the site might become unstable because of important people being fired, and how it would all turn into a disaster and collapse -- people seemed to barely consider the potential long-term gain for Musk in terms of narrative control by taking over such a huge social media site. Unsurprisingly, Musk then decided to get directly involved with the Trump administration, taking direct advantage of the media platform he now controlled. And the site persists, now considered a lawless trash dump with selective and sparse moderation, where far-right ideology can thrive, very much like 4chan.

And in the coming weeks and months, we will see such a takeover unfold with TikTok as well. There can be no major platform of public discourse online that rich and influential people will not attempt to take control of. It simply cannot be allowed to exist.

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[-] thefunkycomitatus@hexbear.net 41 points 4 weeks ago

One of the most pathetic things is these are 60 and 70 year old men (including Bannon in this) who are treating tech wonderkin as their fountain of youth. This is exactly what Musk does too. The proletariat version of this is dirtbag hot couch guys who are in their 30s and hang out at high school parties. Except the poors are much better at policing that shit.

[-] Shaleesh@hexbear.net 40 points 4 weeks ago

I am completely unable to describe the kind of ick I'm feeling right now.

Holy shit.

[-] dead@hexbear.net 37 points 4 weeks ago

Please include EFTA ID #s when you post screenshots of Epstein documents. EFTA stands for Epstein File Transparency Act. Each file in has an ID #. Why people are sharing the files without the ID # makes no sense.

[-] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 27 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Please include EFTA ID #s

seriously. there are fakes floating around, so screenshots of alleged docs without a link are indeed dubious. If you want to verify something though, the documents on the DOJ website are currently searchable: https://www.justice.gov/epstein/search (but of course some have also been deleted after being published...)

In this case, the close coinciding of epstein's first meeting with moot and the creation of /pol/ is in fact substantiated (click for links)

edit: searching for 4chan.org shows that Epstein later became a user of it himself; he's emailing links to threads there to Karyna Shuliak and others. It also has 4chan's response to the FBI's subpoena for the IP address(es) responsible for four posts which were made immediately prior to his death being reported publicly.

click for death-was-faked conspiracy fodder 🍿One of those four posts has been widely reported about:

don't ask me how I know, but Epstein died an hour ago from hanging, cardiac arrest. Screencap this

... while another suggesting his death was faked has been seen mostly only on places like /r/conspiracy - so it seemed likely to have been fabricated after the fact:

Not saying anything after this pls do not try to dox me but last night after 0415 count they took him medical in a wheelchair front cuffed but not 1 triage nurse says they spoke to him. Next thing we know a trip van shows up? We do not do releases on the weekends unless a judge orders it. Next thing we know, he's put in a single man cell and hangs himself? Heres the thing, the trip van did NOT sign in and we did not record the plate number and a guy in a green dress military outfit was in the back of the van according to the tower guy who let him thru the gate. You guys i am shaking right now but i think they switched him out.

4chan's recently-released subpoena response (linked above) includes the text of that post (and not the others, because only that one was deleted apparently?) and confirms that it was made at 8:44 EDT, 10min before the news was public elsewhere. (But 30min after the other 4chan thread saying he hung himself, so, probably just a fiction-writing 4chan user working off of that... but still subpoena-worthy to someone at the FBI.)

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 37 points 4 weeks ago

So it's all but known now that QAnon was an op then.

that shit was obvious

[-] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Wait, is this real!?

Edit: Do you have the mail screen shots?

[-] MasterBlaster@lemmygrad.ml 44 points 4 weeks ago

OPs images are just about all that I've seen regarding this, but, yeah, the Epstein documents released today absolutely contain references to Moot and Epstein meeting, and that meeting happened around the time of /pol/'s reopening.

[-] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 32 points 4 weeks ago

I am not one bit surprised

[-] BanMeFromPosting@hexbear.net 27 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

The elite pedophilia conspiracy according to Qanon-types: You see, when they write that they are out of "gorgonzola" for the "cheese pizza" then that means that the kids in the basement have been drained of their Orgon energy. If you look closely at the logo of the store across from Comet PingPong then-

The actual elite pedophilia scandal:
"Hello Jeffrey Epstein it's me Elon Musk, please plaease please please pleasssssse let me come to your island so I can do sexcrimes on children, it would be so epic!"
"Helo Elonn, sry but I am out of town :/ molesting kids with Bono in ireland .. some other time maybe we can have sex with minors together - Jeffrey Epstein ps. here is a picture of me, Donald Trump, The King of Spain, Jamie Foxx and Bill Gates and we're all crouching over sleeping womin lol, have a good one"

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[-] Homme_Tanks@hexbear.net 27 points 4 weeks ago

The typo "mmot" is crazy. Jeff really didn't give a fuck if people could barely read his correspondence

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 25 points 4 weeks ago
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