Like I'm a little worried about this turning into Leftist PizzaGate shit.

I think the difference between leftists exploring Epstein stuff and fascists doing Qanon stuff is that we don't need it. This case doesn't fill any void in my life and I don't feel like a gumshoe about to uncover the grand plot. Dead, alive, homicide or suicide- his fate is completely arbitrary to me. It's a conspiracy where my default position is and the only meaningful thing to gain from investigating it is a larger list of names.

Ten years from now...

"CIA admits to joint operation with Mossad that included faking Epstein's death and spiriting him back to Little St. James Island, where he rides around in a golf cart in disguise"

Personally I don't think it's likely, but that 4chan post being linked to the IP of an actual guard working at the facility at the time, and possibly this means that skepticism and questioning 'accepted facts' aren't illogical positions

imo speculation is fine even good, as long as people don't over-focus on it, and make it their whole personality, and all they talk about which is one of the many problems with QAnoners/Pizzagaters

To me this smells more like a coverup of an assassination, but I moved on to the actual living pedophiles.

I don't see what there is to worry about, we can't do shit about it and it affects nothing we do.

Ya i made a post musing about being careful not to drive ourselves insane with epstein conspiracies. As the other commenter mentioned, we don’t actually need these conspiracies to prove our worldview. Although mentioning them in brief can potentially be a good propaganda tool at an individual level, perhaps.

Yeah, it's like a leftist ghost story about the Great Man who escaped death to personally dab on us.

It's his role as an agent and facilitator for Power that mattered, not himself. It would be injust for him to be alive - but so what! What a tiny thing! Does anything change with or without him?

Can it be proven, proven? Does it lend authenticity, trust, reliability, to the leftist perspective? No! There is arguing over the flaccidity of a fucking earlobe!

Raise the possibility, fine. Enjoy a little speculation. But without evidence, real evidence treated dispassionately, there must be no solid conclusions. What Is To Be Done doesn't change one bit, so incorporating weak arguments only dissipates energies. And thus Power wrings some more use out of him.

Or "Here's the report that you're signing."

Yeah possible. One way or another the autopsy report does not match the fact that he doesn't have a prostate.

I think I'm on the side of "he's alive in Israel" though.

If they were manufacturing a fake autopsy report to support the case for a hanging death then why would they mention a broken hyoid bone which is typical of strangulation?

And the first one is a blurb from a bloodwork report where they explain the ranges. I don't think labs have access to your full medical history.

I was still skeptical but it's really really fucking hard to stay skeptical when things like organs that shouldn't be there exist.

You mean Roblox

Edit: I don't necessarily think he's alive.

It's a coincidence that Maxwell is still alive while Epstein's neck just did that. Pay no attention to who her father was or the guests in her father's funeral.

Okay, I'm maybe gonna argue against doing this kind of shit in leftist spaces unless it's explicitly satirical.

This is Channer conspiracy shit, these 100% could be the same guy just with photos taken in different contexts.

Like if we wanna discuss shit about Epstein focus on the stuff we actually have strong evidence for, like his Mossad connections, or the unclear sources of his money.

the ear alone is enough to make me wonder.