I saw proof one day. I was visiting a welding shop on business, never been there before, didn't know them. At some point, I'm sitting in the office with about five guys, distracting them from their work, yakking, and I mention a big piece of gear I have to haul around using a cart. One suggests a different kind of cart, and describes it. As we're talking, one of the other guys gasps, and holds his phone up to show the boss.

While we were talking, this guy opened his phone, and the first ad that popped up was for that odd, obscure equipment cart that we had just been talking about.

It turned out that these guys had been discussing this subject earlier, and now it was confirmed for all of us.

https://www.consumerreports.org/electronics/privacy/how-to-turn-off-smart-tv-snooping-features-a4840102036/

Regarding TVs, WikiLeaks' Vault 7 publication in 2017 included "Weeping Angel", CIA malware for Samsung TVs which streams audio from them while they're in "fake off" mode.

https://mashable.com/article/cia-samsung-tv-hack-weeping-angel

For example there was this one time where videos from robot vacuums leaked, including people shitting. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11562599/Robot-vacuum-cleaner-took-photos-woman-toilet-images-ended-Facebook.html

Many years ago this one was done https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBnDWSvaQ1I

And the explanation behind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv8gvXPwWjY&t=0

It's not logically sound, but at this point the burden of proof needs to be on Big Tech if they want to claim they're not spying. Otherwise we'd have to prove it for each individual model, and that isn't feasible, and only supports the opposition.

get a proj, only hdmi, only via laptop thats what i did

Mark Zuckerberg puts a sticker over his laptop camera and microphone.

The manufacturers tell you.

And they even make you click the "I have read and understood this" button under the document that explicitly states that they're spying on you and selling all your data.

AFAIK this is the only evidence: a claim by a marketing company that they're actually doing it. However, they have some reason to lie about this, bc it makes them sound all-knowing and powerful to their clients.

https://www.404media.co/cmg-cox-media-actually-listening-to-phones-smartspeakers-for-ads-marketing/

The very notion of proof implies that you can reproduce it. So I would suggest you forget what anybody here or elsewhere said. Instead, you :

• get a cheap phone (so typically Android)
• reset/format/flash it to a blank state
• make a new testing account on it
• use for random browsing, using app, etc and you log your history, namely what did you actually do AND what ads you actually see
• test for something outside of your new habits with a search query, then log and compare again, seeing the threshold to change
• repeat the last step for something said using e.g. a voice assistant, log&compare
• repeat WITHOUT explicit search, log&compare

Yes this takes a of time but that will help you make YOUR own opinion on the matter if you genuinely care.

Think of something you've never mentioned or discussed before, then out of nowhere, start having a conversation with a friend about it, how much you like it and are thinking about getting it, taking lessons etc then see what happens over the next week on either your or your friend's ads (turn off ad blocker if you use one).

I recommend something completely unusual for most people like an instrument (didgeridoo or cowbell)

don't need any such "proof". the whole industry has lost any and all benefit-of-doubt privileges, for ever. they don't get an opportunity to gain a foothold in mi casa and possibly be in a position to do harm.

I don't get the idea that after all the shit they pulled someone's like "well maybe this new thing's nice".

those are immoral people with zero compunctions about doing anything that hurts you, your community, and humanity as a whole. we are in an adversarial position and you'd do well to remind yourself of that constantly.

Every device made to receive voice commands (Smart TVs, Amazon Echo) WILL listen to everything you say.

And if they provide a button or setting to turn that off you are relying on trusting them to comply with it (I don't think they do and even if they are found doing it they will probably pay a minuscule fine for it)

Here's court cases lost by Google and Apple

Also, whenever monolithic megacorporations not recording you directly, virtually everyone is still buying any data about you they can get from actual malware distributing criminals.

Microphone hijacking is real and commonplace. (Edit: Fixed link thanks to some feedback.)

The malware vendors sell what they learn about us on black markets. And in net effect, everyone is buying from them.

They "Privacy Wash" the things they learn from the illegal recordings, by passing them from one disreputable broker to another. Each broker can keep poor quality records of exactly where they got their data. Pretty soon it's just "part of your digital fingerprint" and "can't be helped".