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[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 37 points 3 days ago

" it is unequivocal that exposure to glyphosate produces important alterations in the structure and function of the nervous system of humans, rodents, fish, and invertebrates."

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35562999/

[-] melfie@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 days ago

Glyphosate has also been linked to gluten intolerance: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3945755/

Maybe at some point, all the “gluten free” products will switch to “glyphosate free”. Until then, I’ve been buying imported flour from Italy, where its use is significantly more regulated than here in the US, although not entirely banned.

[-] Batman@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

So following this logic, am I a plant?

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[-] L7HM77@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 days ago

Awfully big words, for someone who doesn't believe in germ theory.

[-] Omnipitaph@reddthat.com 10 points 3 days ago

holup, what? This guy is working on Victorian era medical knowledge? Is his idol Robert Liston??

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago

Theodoric of York.

You know, medicine is not an exact science, but we are learning all the time. Why, just fifty years ago, they thought a disease like your daughter’s was caused by demonic possession or witchcraft. But nowadays we know that Isabelle is suffering from an imbalance of bodily humors, perhaps caused by a toad or a small dwarf living in her stomach.

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[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago

Who would've predicted modern toxic bro culture leading to the resurfacing of miasma theory? But at this point I wouldn't be surprised to hear him start talking about imbalances of black bile and phlegm.

[-] Tattorack@lemmy.world 287 points 4 days ago

Science is only political because scientists have to continuously convince politicians reality exists.

It's frustrating that something like climate change is even a political discussion at all. Don't Look Up captured that frustration really well.

[-] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 51 points 4 days ago

Convincing people your interpretation of reality exists is literally all that politics is.

Unfortunately, despite being correct, science is also an interpretation of reality.

[-] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 days ago

Convincing people your interpretation of reality exists is literally all that politics is.

What? No. No, no, you naive fool... many politicians, if not most, don't believe most of what they're selling, and don't give a flying fuck about it.

They'll sell whatever line the party they're working for wants them to sell, and they'd just as happily sell the opposition party's line if it paid better and they could switch without being called a turncoat.

Also, it's not about convincing people about specific beliefs; most people are mostly already convinced of their worldviews and if they change them it won't be because of some politician. It's about convincing them, despite all evidence to the contrary, that the politician shares those beliefs, and will impose them on people who don't if they vote for them.

despite being correct, science is also an interpretation of reality.

Again, no. Science (except for mathematics, but that's it's own thing) doesn't and shouldn't ever claim to be correct.

It's the most accurate approximation we have so far of how nature works, but it's constantly trying to achieve better approximations, and will happily throw away the old ones when it finds a better one.

It also should always make very clear that it's an approximation or a description, not an interpretation. Science should always be objective, never subjective, and interpretations are by definition subjective.

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[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 81 points 3 days ago

Sometimes I have this weird theory that RFK Jr is really like a Dr. Zoidberg type alien in a skin suit. He just kind of guesses at how human anatomy works because he isn't human himself and isn't professional enough to get a real education on the subject.

[-] Juice@midwest.social 35 points 3 days ago

"I took the liberty of fertilizing your caviar"

-- RFK jr

[-] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 3 days ago

At least Zoidberg means well, RFK Jr. has more in common with the brain slugs or the gas station egg salad sandwiches

[-] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 12 points 3 days ago

If it's his brain worms speaking, that would explain a lot.

[-] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It’s hard to say what’s more farfetched, that he is a Zoidbergian alien, or that The Kennedys were just raised that far from any level of anything resembling actual human reality?

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[-] officermike@lemmy.world 167 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

doesn't harm organic tissue

Which is totally why Bayer has settled their lawsuit for several billions of dollars over claims that it causes lymphoma.

Edit: also, plants are organic tissue.

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 40 points 4 days ago

Also, the stomach's microbiome isn't plants...

[-] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 112 points 4 days ago

Bacteria is not in the kingdom plantae.

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 45 points 4 days ago

Your stomach micro biome is plants.

[-] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 31 points 4 days ago

That’s interesting. I wonder where the sunlight gets in to my stomach for all those plants to photosynthesize.

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[-] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 4 days ago

Funny that in Spanish it's called "flora intestinal", not "fauna intestinal". Always though that it's a but of a misnomer.

[-] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Intestinal flora is a common phrase in English, too. Or "gut flora". It's one of those old 19th century scientific phrases which has stuck around.

Like this, err, gentleman (who apparently wants to drag us back to that past) we used to believe gut bacteria to be plant-based. Science caught up, but the term has had sticking power. It seems to be a favorite of marketers of probiotic supplements.

"Microbiota" or just the straightforward "gut bacteria" would be more accurate and modern. But of course, everyone except for this guy already knows that.

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[-] xep@discuss.online 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

What I think he's trying to say is that Glyphosate affects the shikimate pathway, which is a biological pathway in plants. This doesn't exist in human cells, but it does exist in our gut microbiota.

We also know now that Glyphosate is a glycine analogue and can displace glycine anywhere in protein synthesis, with unknown effects. It's also likely an endocrine disrupter.

[-] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

You're giving him far too much credit and help being cogent...

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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's found in plants and bacteria so it's not actually exclusively plants which is why in most countries you're not allowed to use it as a weed killer.

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[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 days ago

RFK has never been about science.

He was a paid antivax advocate, for money, now he's a paid glyphosate advocate, again for money.

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[-] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 132 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Your stomach microbiome is plants

Which is why I spend a solid 3 hours a day facing the sun with my mouth held wide open. Gotta let my tummy plants photosynthesize somehow.

You say that as a joke but I'm pretty sure this clown is also one of the quacks who regularly talked about the "health benefits" of butthole tanning.

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[-] glorkon@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago

As if denying millions of Americans access to proper healthcare wasn't enough, they appointed an anti-science, anti-vaxx idiot as if to make sure even more harm would be inflicted on them.

[-] Loce@lemmy.world 39 points 4 days ago

One with frontotemporal dementia that has rapidly shrinking brain, the other one with half a brain eaten by the worm... in what fucking timeline do we live... feels like Rick and Morty episode... fuck. me.

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[-] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 86 points 4 days ago
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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 11 points 3 days ago

So does it go after organic tissue or not, because last time I checked I'm pretty certain that plants are organic. No one has plants in their stomach either. What a prat.

[-] Filiforme@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 days ago

Ofc the digestive flora is plants. Man the level of stupidity. Just as dumb as the orange dumbass talking about asylum seekers being release from mental asylums... What a time to be alive.

[-] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago

Despite the world flora, the digestive system is largely populated by bacteria, not plants

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[-] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago

This isnt related solely to Glyphosate, but in Germany Parkinson is being recognised as a "condition caused by working co editions" for farmers and Thier exposure to herbicides (etc.) in general

[-] judgyweevil@feddit.it 59 points 4 days ago

He contradicts himself even in his own wacky theories

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[-] DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago
[-] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago

They want to unban gyphosphate so that CERTAIN countries dropping it on their neighbouring country's fields doesn't count as committing a warcrime.

[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 37 points 4 days ago

Everything is political, and there has never been a time that proves that better than now.

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[-] yesman@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago

Of course science is political. Knowledge is power and all power systems are political.

But ignoring philosophy, Science is a charity. By in large they must beg for their money. You don't suppose that the people providing the money have any influence?

And I'm not talking about junk science, biased studies, or even fraud. A perfectly run study may still be political simply because it was chosen for funding over something else.

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[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 41 points 4 days ago

I can't tell if this is supposed to be for or against glyphosate?

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[-] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago

Sounds legit. Where do I sign up for my glyphosate injections?

[-] YoiksAndAway@piefed.zip 40 points 4 days ago

I remember that when Roundup first came out, glyphosate was being held up as a brilliant example of herbicide design since it inhibits a vital metabolic pathway in plants that animals don't have. They even claimed that the surfactants in Roundup were more harmful than the glyphosate itself. I guess that claim didn't hold up too well.

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