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[-] stabby_cicada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 152 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)
[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Also I depicted Cool hats

[-] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 79 points 2 weeks ago

*Fewer humans, and that would actually solve most of our problems, it's just that we need to be more specific about which humans we get rid of. Specifically billionaires/unchecked capitalists.

[-] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

There were fewer humans a century ago. and there were no human caused ecological crisis back then.

it isn't the number of people really, but the exploitative economic system they use.

/s!!! /s!!!!

btw, humans managed the extinction of megafauna when where were around a million humans 10 thousand years ago.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

No human caused ecological crises during the height of industrialization? Sure bud.

Go check on the Aral Sea to get an idea of what a non-exploitative economic system can do.

[-] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

sorry. I'll take all the responsibility of forgetting the "/s".

thought it was clearly sarcasm, because duh.

carry on.

was trying to make it a clearly obvious point against that argument.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Sarcasm is dead and .ml killed it.

[-] MerryJaneDoe@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Deadpan sarcasm doesn't translate well from a verbal medium to a written medium.

Unless you're in an echo chamber....

wouldn't say echochambers are immune, maybe communities where users know each other. like if anyone who knew me read it, they would immediately realize it's sarcasm. but without any context, sarcasm is indistinguishable from a stupid idea.

wonder how many times I've agreed with a nazi, because he was being sarcastic and I didn't realize.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Your username should have given me a clue

[-] mrbutterscotch@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

I honestly believe that the more extreme .ml users will be chasing off new users coming to the fediverse, since they have the largest communities.

Which is a shame.

[-] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

There were also infinitely fewer people concerned about humans' ecological impact and no effective way to change that. Now we have millions and millions of people all over the world worried about it and we are all interconnected via the internet. We caused a mass extinction with a million of us in disparate tribes, just imagine what we could accomplish if all 8 billion of us actually worked together toward changing the world for the better! Unfortunately we're still stuck in stupid tribes, and the most powerful tribe that controls every aspect of life in every other tribe is obsessed with destroying the Earth at a never-ending, ever-increasing pace. Here in America, our ruling class is literally trying to bring about the apocalypse. But naw, getting rid of them couldn't possibly lead to any kind of benefit, we better let them burn it all down in the name of line-go-up 🙄🙄🙄

[-] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

Ha ha you got me in the first half there

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago

Meme is accurate. I am weird and misanthropic.

[-] BillyClark@piefed.social 21 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, I was going to say that there is nothing inherently illogical about the misanthropic person, despite what the meme implies.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

I just wonder if non-misanthropes have actually met people or if they’ve got this idealized view of them.

[-] Ooops@feddit.org 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Most people are not that observant and really self-centered.

From there just a little variance in the spectrum ranging from "I think as highly about others as I think about me" to "they are all inferior to me" can make a massive difference on how someone sees and interacts with the world. And barely anything of it is based on the actual reality of other people.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

It’s not that I feel I’m better. It’s that I know how awful I am and how little variance there really is to humanity.

If people are like me then they’re pretty awful.

[-] NotEasyBeingGreen@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

Most people are really interesting if you get to know them.

I definitely don't understand most people, but that doesn't mean I dislike them. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Lots of things are really interesting if you get to know them.

[-] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

The latter. Can't condemn them for their idealistic optimism. But at least i would shut up and not mock what I don't really understand.

But that's just me, an idealistic, optimistic, altruistic misanthropist 😁

[-] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Just uhh, don't look at all the things we're doing for infinite growth. The beef industry is totally a normal thing to inflict on an environment

-Malthus, apparently

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Well we needed something to replace all the native ruminants we brutally slaughtered.

[-] joostjakob@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

If we're a part of nature, everything we do is also a part of nature, it's just that we have the capacity to understand the consequences of humanity's actions on the rest of nature

[-] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 weeks ago

I mean if you want to generalize, mass extinction events are also an occurrence in nature even when we're not involved. I think the hope of environmental endeavors is to try and preserve as much as we can, which our current population growth and desired goals of wealth just will not do.

[-] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 18 points 2 weeks ago

Connection between the human development index (HDI) and total fertility rate (TFR)

The human development index has three components -GDP per capita is one of them, life expectancy is the second and the education level - the third. As all these factors are negatively correlated with fertility

[-] pageflight@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Generally seems like the right message, but there are plenty of third factors that might be a more direct cause — amount of drugs, microplastics, pesticides, etc in the environment / food.

[-] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Real talk? Missing the third group that groups the other two under the same heading for political expediency. The bottom group is essentially never sincerely grouped with the top.

[-] brianary@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 weeks ago
[-] MerryJaneDoe@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Personally, I prescribe to Carlin's philosophy. The problem will take care of itself.

https://youtu.be/UTPlKwkryEk?t=461

[-] JizzmasterD@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago

There aren’t actually many cool hats

[-] asdasd201@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

Ecosocialism vs. Ecofascism

I believe if we get rid of some people, the world will become more sustainable.

[-] Juice@midwest.social 4 points 2 weeks ago
[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

If everyone on the planet lived like an American... Yikes.

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

I was going to say "there wouldn't be a planet for long", but that's not true. The planet would heal from the booboo relatively quick.

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 1 points 2 weeks ago

Urban ecology is the proof of dialectics.

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago

I don't feel like these positions are at odds with one another, unless you become active in reducing the number of humans, of course.

Like, you can uplift and protect people by stopping them from killing their environment, because you recognize that people are an invasive species that will do that.

[-] zenzanzoo@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

I hate all extremists, left and right.

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