Um ... NORPs don't use AI to code. They use it to think for them. And mostly they don't think about code.

If you exported your support ticket database and your customer feedback to CSV files, upload that to a chatbot, cross-reference it, ask it the right questions, structure the output, it could tell you everything going right and wrong with your customer base. Backed up with data. And it could do that in like 10 minutes. Instead of weeks of research.

Problem is, you (or whoever reads tickets), are going to miss the details. You won't read that one heartbreaking story. You won't see the success. You'll have an insightful (if you are good with prompts) summary. That's it.

Secondary (or perhaps this is the big one) problem is that the more you let the machine think for you, the less thinking you do. It makes you dumb.

They don't really understand how they work and get misled by how AI can get to a correct solution (or correct looking one).

Like I was in a meeting where people were presenting their Claude skills (which are just text files describing processes that it can add to the context) and one manager mentioned doing regression testing on added skills to make sure they don't break the functionality of existing ones. From my pov, he was both on the right track but also missing the point entirely because they won't be able to consistently pass regression tests even without new skills. Because something being in the context window only has a chance of affecting the output. If the code being modified has comments that look like instructions, they might override the actual instructions.

Or it might try solving non-existent problems for you. Like a skill I was "developing" for making a particular modification to tests basically just outright said "make a test that inherits from the target test and add these parameters". Dead simple step. First test I use to test it on, I see it's missing one of the arguments. I mention it and the AI says that because of the start of the name being "" and the test didn't target that section, it decided that the argument wasn't necessary, so I had to add instructions to not just add that argument but to not decdide to just leave it out for arbitrary reasons.

I can't say for sure any of the AI tasks I've done saved any time by being AI. But the mental load is lower and they really want us using AI, so I'll keep doing it, but the unreliability is going to cause more problems than it solves in the long run IMO.

100%

Programming languages are already languages, languages that do exactly what I request, languages which are free/cheap to use, languages which just make sense

Why would I defer that to another language which is imprecise, and which I don't have control over?

A huge amount of why normal office workers like using AI, in my opinion, is that they never learned how make even simple scripts which would have helped them in a lot of their tasks.

Most office workers do not have the access rights and programs to run scripts. I know how to write them, but there is no way that local IT would allow me to run python on my work machine.

My need for control/understanding stuff I create

And that is really important from a mental health perspective: People are being held responsible for their work. If something does break that they've built, their boss & coworkers expect that they are able to fix it and that the error will not happen again. If you understand your system, you are able to do that. If you are responsible for some kind of AI-driven house of cards that you do not understand and can't fix, that is really bad. It's triggering some kind of imposter syndrome

It being inconsistent also adds to this.

"Same exact input in same exact situation next time can have completely different output" is just unacceptable in automation.

Better information control no human to leak it no Hunan in the loop more human labor fungibility its the best

Honestly, don't understand your problem. You still can read the code and control the quality. You can still write scripts and you can even teach the AI to use them.

Fuk, I'd have just taken the fried eggs. That looked pretty good.
But I got nuthin.

And sexy felines.

You lied to me!

This is why I always laughed around Halloween when the news tries to scare people that drugs are being put into candy.

Drug dealers aren't exactly known for just handing out product for free.

Drugs became way less cool when they switched to the token system.

Reminds me of some funny old posts on r/sysadmin of greybeards who had essentially automated their entire jobs and life in perl lol.

Best one was a script that would auto text message his wife he would be coming home late if he still had an active terminal session.

There was a recent post around here or reddit that was about management trying to gauge performance via AI use, and how they had caught on to the token spending tricks people were using, but honestly it doesn't seem that hard to fake around it if it ever came up.

Just throw some agent work at it like codex and watch it burn tokens running grep lol.

Yeah, doesn’t bother me. I’ll just leave it crunching a boring problem while I go away and make a cup of tea or chat some shit.

I wish my manager would assign me toke quotas instead of token quotas.

Tracking tokens not tokes

My colleagues use it extensively for coding, I use it barely and we are about the same speed but their code is absolute shit AI slop.

If you know what you're doing, nothing is faster (with a good autocomplete it's even faster).

But are you cheap to hire? Checkmate anti AI people! /s

It's funny how this could be my post and we very likely don't work at the same company.

Its funny that there is even a physiology diagnosis for being addicted to AI. Just because you can profit from AI in shady ways doesn't make you not a fraudster. Didn't 60 minutes have a segment about China kids profiting from it? How is that not child labor.

So you're a consultant?

Really intrusive to take the AI pee-test every six months. But that's what it takes to maintain my security clearance, do whatchagonnado

Are you hiring?