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[-] testaccount789@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 minutes ago

I thought about trying this, but thinking about how to execute it already sounds painful enough.
For input data, I could use my existing library of mostly individually-selected songs, currently at size 1,662. Since I mostly listen to everything, this spans a rather large range of dates.
Then start taking random songs, and rating them on 1 - 10 scale in relation to entire library, enter ratings into 10 year buckets, and use mean of those ratings.
Probably 5 ratings per bucket to keep it short.
Unfortunately, I most likely can't fill every bucket, hell, some would remain empty. After all, classical music makes my library likely start in late 1600s, and end in 2025.
I didn't think about that. Perhaps I could leave it out, and start at, say 1920s, but that would make the data incomplete.

Problem is, I don't have the years for most of them, so that would mean looking up release dates for those individually.

Huh, what if everyone would absolutely love (old) classical music, but we don't see a spike as the graph starts at age of -40?

[-] Sawblade02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 hour ago

Keep your statistics to yourself, I'm over 40 and love discovering new music.

[-] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

"No! You're dumb and your opinions are poorly justified! You must listen to us instead!" - billionaire media

[-] Noggog@programming.dev 1 points 29 minutes ago* (last edited 25 minutes ago)

Ditto. Im constantly finding new stuff. I think we all get a favorite music era for free since we start with none, but you gotta think about it and try to keep adding more. Takes approaching the new stuff with different points of view. New music often isn't good for the situations you listen to your original favorites. Maybe you started with electronic dance. Ambient music isn't gonna fit that goal and needs a new mentality and space to appreciate it.

[-] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 1 points 46 seconds ago

Nostalgia needs to go back to its old status as a form of mental illness.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 minutes ago

as if this chart had the centuries of data needed to be meaningful

[-] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 points 14 minutes ago

Well there have been scientific studies showing music became more shitty.

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 1 points 3 minutes ago

That sounds pretty implausible, from so many angles.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 58 minutes ago* (last edited 54 minutes ago)

I think it's exposure, you hear about a lot more music in high school. Now I get exposed to new music mostly by the radio (you can throw streaming algorithms in here) and it's shitty pop/rap music that they play. Like if my 90s exposure to rap was limited to Vanilla Ice then I wouldn't care for it either.

[-] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 points 13 minutes ago

You need to stop, collaborate and listen!

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 11 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Notice the graph peaks in the teens, when most people's fun and social life also peaks. I was an introverted high school nerd and barely remember the music from that time, then in my late 20s got into doing theatre - suddenly had a thriving social life full of parties, dating, friends, fun... now it's decades later and the music of that era is by far my favorite.

[-] moakley@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Oh shit. That explains it for me too then.

[-] null@lemmy.org 2 points 55 minutes ago

This phenomenom is observable in other areas and explains a lot of the "old good, new bad" online discourse about movies, games, and other media. You could even apply it to a major pilitical party.

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 35 minutes ago

I'm sick of people insisting on X new combat feature being added to every. single. game.

No, we don't need every game to play like modern Ubislop. Nor should they.

[-] LemmyFeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 hour ago

Man I must be an outlier apparently, I don't listen to any of the music from my teens or even my twenties except in rare nostalgia trips. I'm constantly finding newly released songs that I like and even cringe at some of the music I liked as a youth. I don't think I can even define an era of "best music" - there're so many great songs across all music.

[-] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 2 points 40 minutes ago* (last edited 40 minutes ago)

A few months ago I decided to listen to a few albums I used to be obsessed with as a teen. I just... didn't feel anything anymore. The music used to vibe with my teenage angsty energy, but being in my 30s now it just doesn't hit the same.

Meanwhile, I still rock out to classic rock and oldies from before my time. I was just singing Steve Miller Band and The Beatles on my way home from work - no radio, just felt like singing.

Though some stuff I listened to in my youth is more relevant now than ever. Songs written during the Bush era criticizing politics are as cathartic to scream out as they used to be...

[-] GiorgioBoymoder@hexbear.net 5 points 1 hour ago

They grabbed 1 song from the top 10 (excluding top 3 to avoid mega-hits) for every other year. Here's the songlist used for the study:

I went to the paper and if you're struggling to interpret the x-axis like I was, the paper labels it "song-specific age" i.e. the age the person rating the song was when the song was released. Y axis is "standardized musical preference".

[-] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 hours ago

I'm in my 30s and a lot of my favourite music came out recently. My music tastes keep getting weirder and weirder.

[-] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 hours ago

The new Boards of Canada album came out a few days ago so I have no idea what this chart is taking about.

[-] woodenghost@hexbear.net 1 points 1 hour ago

I read that deliberately alternating listening to one new song between two to four already known songs is supposed to be a good exercise for the brain. (Don't remember where I read that, maybe I should exercise my brain more.)

[-] psud@aussie.zone 19 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Only most people.

Some of us keep listening to new music throughout our lives

New stuff isn't tied to memories from youth though

[-] hypna@lemmy.world 82 points 5 hours ago

No fate but what we make. You can put in the effort to keep your mind and your ears open. Absolutely worth it IMHO.

[-] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 4 hours ago

Why should I bother when all the best music came out before I was 35?

[-] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 hours ago

Because some of that new music came came out before I was 35

[-] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Edit: Voyager is acting weird

[-] Suck_on_my_Presence@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago

Gosh, absolutely. I'll go on a nostalgia trip now and again, but there are soooo many artists doing such fantastic things nowadays.

[-] UncleArthur@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago

Absolutely! I've discovered some amazing modern artists, mostly via film and TV (streaming series) soundtracks, especially the latter.

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[-] radix@lemmy.world 36 points 4 hours ago

Not just music! (Though that is probably the strongest example)

It's telling how many people are nostalgic for a society that only existed before they were born. Recent History education sucks.

[-] atomicorange@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

The one that surprises me is TV. It has objectively improved in quality so much, it’s basically on par with movies at this point. Writing, acting, costuming, all of it. I’d never claim that TV from the 90s was superior to now, even though I was a teen back then.

[-] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

I will absolutely argue that TV was better between 2006-2016 than 2016-2026. I think the detailed ratings (especially on streaming) ended up feeding studio decisionmaking into shallower works that their algorithms suggested audiences would like, and that we lost something in the process. The collapse of mid budget basic cable original programming also has hurt the genre as a whole.

Also, there's nothing quite like a high budget but mediocre show, that looks visually stunning but just doesn't resonate with you.

[-] timestatic@feddit.org 18 points 4 hours ago

Damn we humans are bad as shit as forming our subjective opinion that doesnt get extremely distorted by nostalgia

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago

I always go back to that line from Men in Black about the difference between a person and people.

In aggregate we really are the worst.

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[-] Michal@programming.dev 4 points 2 hours ago

I tend to listen to music from before i was born, but then again that's the music I listened to in my formative years.

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 hours ago

When I was a kid I only listened to music from the 80s and prior.

As an adult I started finding other genres of more contemporary stuff that I actually liked, but as a kid my only exposure to "modern music" was the bullshit top 40s pop music radio stations that they would play on the school bus, and I hated that stuff with a burning passion.

Even when there was an occasional song that I found catchy, I felt very conflicted inside and would never admit to liking it...

[-] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 18 points 4 hours ago

Bro I smashed the shit out the like button for angine de poitirne, and I don't even think they're human. How do I have nostalgia bias for music that isn't from this dimension?

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[-] snoons@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 hours ago

Obviously biased data, I'm not in it. >:(

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

The music industry, such as it is today, is nothing. It was getting super fucked in the 80s, had a last gasp in the 90s and now it’s nothing.

The former pipeline of label to radio to charts is dead. Whats left is a necrotic accounting and marketing mechanism driven by algorithms and viral splashes.

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Things have changed but the music industry is very much alive. The barrier to entry dropped significantly with the advent of the internet which definitely affected the established companies but they don't represent the industry. The artists do.

There's more independent labels than ever and live music hasn't changed significantly (minus the feed for "major" venues). I'd even go as far as to say the music industry is better than it's ever been.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I’m sure that’s true in many respects, but from the standpoint of putting content in front of . . uh . . earballs, that pipeline that used to exist for almost every adult person (in the US anyway) is dead.

Spotify and Youtube are two possibilities, both pay almost nothing and require lots of sandbagging to get a foothold.

Any new music I accidentally come across is more often than not a style I’m not into, and/or it sounds like everything else.

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I've made a similar "rant" before on this in the hopes to change someone's mind so I'll give you the shortened version. And I don't mean this negatively, I mean it as encouragement!:

Music can be an active or passive hobby. Most people fit the latter category and the older you go, the more it skews that way. Adults have a lot less time to experiment and if you aren't actively seeking out new music, you can fall into the trap of "they don't make it like they used to"

But they do! It's out there! You're just less likely to stumble upon it because not only do you lack the time, the people around you are in the same boat. We've also heard a LOT of music since our teens so fewer songs feel fresh. There's no such thing as "derivative" if you've never heard the original!

I'm an active hobbyist who listens to 20+ hours of music I've never heard before on a weekly basis and can guarantee that music in pretty much every single genre is still around.

So I would encourage you to spend a couple hours exploring some time. Even if it's just googling "modern bands like [old band] reddit" and seeing what the music hobbyists have to say, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

[-] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 15 points 4 hours ago

Statistically, sure, but I’m forty and I keep finding new bangers.

[-] ReCursing@feddit.uk 12 points 4 hours ago

Pop music now is better and more diverse than it ever has been. And I say this as a 45 year old

[-] ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 hours ago

iHeartRadio / ClearChannel Radio destroyed the music of my childhood by overplaying the same 20 songs per station.

This graph is worse than useless to me. It is an insult.

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[-] MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 hours ago

You just gotta know where to look. Music is an industry, so the people who view songs as products will push their favored products in front of as many of their target demographic as possible. They want those tween-to-twenties locked down. They decide what's cool, so if they like your products then you're cool. So if you're 40 and only listen to top 40 pop stations, you're probably in for a bad time since none of that shit is really trying to court you in the first place. I'm in my mid-late 30s and I'm still discovering bands and current releases that I'm into. Just gotta look a little harder.

I think that as we get older and consume more media, we experience a sort of fatigue of simple and easy structures, so we desire something more complex. But we grandfather in the stuff that we imprinted on in those formative years, and that's why that younger demographic is targeted; they'll keep coming back to their comfort media for their whole life.

Pop music is (usually) the middle ground between nursery rhymes and something like djent or cool jazz or math rock or whatever other more nuanced genre you're into. "Products" in those genres just aren't gonna sell like boy bands do. Some pop music is actually good and complex, but it's just not my thing and mostly never has been. I'm not trying to insult people who like Bad Bunny or Kendrick or whatever, but yeah Black Eyed Peas and Kid Rock fucking suck. Don't @ me.

[-] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

ALL Americans are exactly this?

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