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[-] Zap@lemmy.dbzer0.com 279 points 2 months ago

Ya know. The fact that active users was going down made me feel like part of the 1% of stubborn assholes but ever since RiF went dark the only time I've been on reddit is when a Google search took me there because fuck spez. I'm in it for the long haul. I won't be going back. And ya know what? Fuck Google too. I've migrated to Firefox and DuckDuckGo since then too. Idk maybe it's just cause I am stubborn but I refuse to be a hypocrite.

[-] TrendigOsthyvel@lemmy.world 72 points 2 months ago

I've done the same. Even installed linux on my gaming rig. Also moved everything to proton.

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[-] kakes@sh.itjust.works 51 points 2 months ago

Agreed. I may be principled to a fault, but I'll never go back to Reddit. It has that corporate miasma to it now.

Truth be told, it had the miasma long before the API changes, but that was the point where the boiled frog croaked for me.

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[-] Aquilae@hexbear.net 34 points 2 months ago

Lemmy is quite the pipeline

[-] velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 months ago

All our data are belong to us.

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[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 months ago

I've installed Libreddit to redirect any Google searches that lead me to Reddit. They're not getting my visit!


[-] glibg10b@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 months ago

I hope you're donating to the respective libreddit instance hoster, because unlike Reddit, they're not a multibillion corporation with a steady ad income to pay for their traffic

If you're not, then I suggest you use old.reddit.com with uBlock Origin

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[-] nicetriangle@kbin.social 171 points 2 months ago

Really has felt like the thrediverse has been quite active lately. During the exodus we had a lot of posting about... the exodus. But now we have a lot of posting about actual topics and what feels like a pretty healthy community building save for a few instances that will probably get defederated before too long.

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 60 points 2 months ago

Same I find the engagement is raising. The threads here are more sincere. Sure it's not as active when it comes to some things but that's fine IMHO. Building an online community right takes time.

[-] saltnotsugar@lemm.ee 30 points 2 months ago

I also feel that people here are much nicer, and willing to engage with content. Even tiny communities usually make pretty great posts.

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[-] Bonifratz@feddit.de 118 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Here's a comment for even more activity!

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 93 points 2 months ago

Because that Picard maneuver guy carries the Lemmy network with a ton of spicy memes. A true real one

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 62 points 2 months ago
[-] Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi 22 points 2 months ago

We need your buddy, the Riker maneuver.

The Riker Maneuver

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 20 points 2 months ago

I actually named my Mastodon account that.

I like that my profile (on mobile at least) looks like he's Riker maneuvering a Riker maneuver:

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[-] morrowind@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 months ago

that guy is a legend and also confuses me every time I see him outside of a star trek community

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[-] LilDumpy@lemmy.world 81 points 2 months ago

It's probably because I've commented a couple of times. Usually I have nothing to say, but I've felt rather engaged lately.

[-] anonymoose@lemmy.ca 47 points 2 months ago

OMG, LilDumpy left another comment! 📸

[-] LilDumpy@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

Please, please. I'm just a guy. Be sure to follow to catch a low level comment or two every few days!

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[-] syd@lemy.lol 80 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It could be about programming.dev and lemmynsfw.com stat changes: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/4235

TL;DR: By default, Lemmy only counts posts and comments for active users. These instances also started counting the votes. According to Lemmy NSFW admin, there are 3 times more active users with lurkers.

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 43 points 2 months ago

Given all the different ways “active” is defined we may as well just collect all the meanings available.

Mastodon and Twitter etc, for example, count logging on as active.

While I can see the argument for voting, it is qualitatively different from posting/commenting. Knowing both, as well as log in numbers too might make sense. But muddying the waters is probably confusing … though it is interesting that any instance can define what it means by “active”.

[-] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 34 points 2 months ago

I would say that voting isn't actually different from posting/commenting. It's a process whereby a user takes part in a discussion/topic/post. In an ideal world, everyone would post, but we shouldn't act like active people who don't feel like they have anything to say explicitly, aren't here.

[-] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 months ago

Totally agree. Even when two commenters are replying to one another, there is always another layer where they are also addressing everyone in the thread/community/instance/fediverse, which obviously includes lurkers.

The votes shape everything about the platform, so ignoring the lurkers in the stats feels like it's missing an important data point.

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[-] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 76 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I came to Lemmy after Reddit's crackdown on third-party clients. Looking back, I'm pretty happy with how Lemmy is going and how it feels right now. The number of users decreased after the initial spike, sure, but it also stabilized at a respectable level. There are things I'm still missing, but the way it is definitely works for me.

[-] vegskret@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago

Same situation for me. This is such a nice place compared to reddit. I still think it would be better if it grows some more, but one of the nice things about Lemmy is that it has a more "niche" user base

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[-] Masamune@lemmy.world 68 points 2 months ago
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[-] Whirling_Cloudburst@lemmy.world 54 points 2 months ago

I prefer quality over quantity, but more quality is always welcome. I'm not going back to reddit. The reddit alien is about to become the Borg of the shareholders.

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[-] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago

Honestly, it’s not surprising. They seem very ban-happy there lately, with accounts getting banned over nothing. And I’ve seen a fair few subs getting the axe as well. When a site gets actively hostile to users and lets mods run their own little dictatorships, people eventually get fed up with it.

Lemmy isn’t Reddit, but at least it’s… also not Reddit :D

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[-] mtchristo@lemm.ee 45 points 2 months ago

This place shall not die. Keep the party going guys.

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[-] Fluid@aussie.zone 40 points 2 months ago

Related to the recent reddit mobile site update that straight up breaks the website perhaps? (Cant scroll, can’t interact)

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[-] Pseudonaut@lemmy.today 38 points 2 months ago

I used to look to Reddit when big news broke because it was always on the front page within minutes. This past year there have been a few times that big news stories weren't even on the top few pages. I gave Lemmy a try, and it feels just like reddit from 2013. I love it. I'm home.

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[-] notsofunnycomment@mander.xyz 36 points 2 months ago
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[-] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago

i have been posting for 3 years!

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[-] FireTower@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago

Good. Lemmy, like Reddit, is fundamentally user driven platform. The most important thing for the life of it is people making posts.

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[-] wiki_me@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 months ago

unfortunately other data is not encouraging , the number of servers is both down since the exodus and in the recent month.

I think the number of servers is a interesting metric to look on, it correlates with users who are tech savy and are early adopters, before the exodus the number of servers was growing consistently , despite the number of users mostly staying the same, That was IMO an indication of the relative quality of lemmy at the time and indeed it seemed to got the most benefits from the exodus out of all the reddit alternatives.

compare that with peertube which shows consistent growth in the number of servers (see this month, and long term), I think what makes them better then lemmy currently is that they currently seem better at prioritizing feature development by using a dedicated site.

Also the total donations have declined in the last month (from €3962 to €3,771 today), So i think we should try to not get overconfident and work to secure the future of lemmy or some other open source reddit alternative.

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[-] crsu@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago

Reddit is so censored it's pointless. Almost all the comments seem like they're written by bots or gov guys with square haircuts who think this is what "those nerds" talk like

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[-] herrwoland@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

Only a matter of time before reddit fucks up again, so we better get the good places before the second wave of migration

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[-] dpkonofa@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I would use Lemmy more if people on here weren’t so toxic. It’s been bringing out the toxicity in me more than I’m comfortable with. Too many confidently incorrect people speaking on topics they have absolutely no experience in, complex discussion completely boiled down to platitudes without any nuance, and tribalism that rivals what’s on Twitter.

Mac and Windows users are immediately downvoted for not sucking down Linux’s balls in every scenario, a complete cesspool of discussion with regard to Israel and Palestine appears all over the most popular posts, straw men and bad faith discussion appears in every community (with rare exception), and deification of the popular faces in the orbit of any topic without any room for critical thought around their positions is the norm. Dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria.

I was excited for the fediverse after watching the slow decline of Digg, /., Reddit, etc. but it’s obvious that the worst parts of those platforms are creeping up here too and there’s nothing to be done except wade through the sewage to get to things that are interesting and insightful. It’s a shame but Lemmy will never be as popular as the alternatives were. Techie incels rooted in here too early.

Edit: I’m now banned from /c/technology (or at least shadowbanned on one instance) for not accepting their arguments on piracy. This is what I mean. There’s no nuance here.

[-] Redredme@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

I'm gonna tell you something.

While reading your comment i became more and more convinced it would end with and don't let this man distract you from the fact that in 1998, the Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer's table.

Except then you didn't.

Which was a bummer.

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[-] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 months ago

We need to change the way we interact with social media.

My advice, points don't matter and you don't deserve anyone a debate.

Drop the phone or press back and go next if it feels toxic.

Internet should serve you and not the other way around.

If you have something to share, make your essay in a different post with the appropriate documentation and let it sit for someone else to find.

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[-] lil@lemy.lol 24 points 2 months ago

I started using Lemmy since September 2022 I think, but I rarely open it, two weeks ago I was permabanned on reddit for report abuse, then semi-unbanned, so I deleted my account, and now I'm starting to use Lemmy actively, there are a lot more servers and users now and I found a new nice server.

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[-] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 months ago

I'm glad to see this. I was mostly a lurker at the old place for over 10 years.

Creating posts and commenting at times was difficult and often they were deleted due to some rule or issue. The worst was when users would message to let me know the post had been deleted and they knew due to some other form of the site they were using.

In all my years of managing Forums before this period it wasn't that hard to create new topics and participate so I gave up.

I started lurking here at Lemmy then starting seeing this theme about user engagement going down and not enough content. When I would end up back at the old place after a Google search on something I could see the volume number differences between lemmy and there so I decided to try posting again.

So far it's been a lot easier especially in sh1tposting. I did run into a couple of hiccups but overall it's been a lot easier.

I'll enjoy it while it lasts as over time with more users things will change, at least for now the posts are not drowning in comments by the thousands yet. I can keep up with that. It kind of reminds me of my old forum days in the early 2000s.

[-] FormallyKnown@feddit.dk 21 points 2 months ago

Had to use the reddit app the other day.. That people can stand to be on there still is beyond me. I like it here on the fediverse and im not going back

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[-] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

I’ve noticed that there seems to be a lot of activity, enough to replace Reddit, on the most popular communities and instances. Even my more niche communities such as !fantasyfootball@lemmy.world has had more activity lately. Although the niche ones have a way to go to be replacements for their counterparts on Reddit

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