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Argentinian worker in one month: how come i help produce 100 milk bottles a day, yet receive 20 milk bottles per day 
They'll just do the usual 
retort that obfuscates the entire question by appealing to the abstract social nature of labor. If you're only at one spot on the assembly line and you contribute to a small part of the manufacturing of the commodity, it's a lot harder to measure how many commodities you make a day, since you never really make an entire commodity with your hands the way an artisan would. Someone milks the cow. Someone bottles the milk. Someone screws the cap on. Someone puts the label on. Someone makes the bottle. Obviously it's even more complex than that, but this is a simplified example. If a process of making a commodity is divided into 5 separate jobs, each worker only creates on average 20% of the commodity at a time. So if a given individual in that process does their job 100 times they really only "created" 20 commodities. And at this point the question becomes abstract enough for people to not really know exactly how much they're individually doing for the capitalist and it becomes harder for them to measure whether they're being paid the full value of their work or not. Intuitively of course most people know they aren't, because otherwise profit and hence surplus value/surplus product couldn't exist. And collectively the workers definitely are getting less than they give on average.
What part of Das Kapital did you get this from?
That's a tough question. I'm not quoting Marx above, I'm casually using intuition and memory. Honestly if I were strictly going off of Marx directly I wouldn't have talked so casually about the "full value of their work" since Marx draws a distinction between labor power (the commodity sold by the worker to the capitalist), living labor (work as it is actually performed) and dead labor (i.e. the products of past labor, including means of production). But yeah. This is mostly stuff you can find explained much better in Volume 1, Wage Labour and Capital, Value Price and Profit, and maybe a little bit of Volume 2.
If you want a full citation I'd have to put in some time and frankly it's the Saturday before Christmas and I'm feeling very lazy lol
Capitalism NO FOOD
umm excuse me, didn't you read? I'm literally paying them in food!
More like Russia in the 1890s. Dude is speedrunning the conditions for a communist revolution to the point im beginning to suspect he's a left accelerationist.
Plottwist, it is not Conan, his dead dog, who is speaking with him, but the ghost of ~~Peron~~ Che Guevara
walks into a bank
Hi! Yes, I'd like to deposit my rotting milk and meat, please.
The crazy libertarian is resorting to payments in kind. I guess the next step for him will be building a barter economy and having taxes payable in corvée labor.
maybe Yanis Varoufakis really is onto something with his "Technofeudalism" book
Based on commentary I've heard from communists way more well read than me I'd say no, though it was what I thought of immediately when I heard of bringing back payment in kind. My imagination is informed that way based on reading of stuff in the Middle Ages like the Byzantines having a flexible tax policy after conquering Bulgaria, with the allowance of payment in kind.
Byzantines having a flexible tax policy after conquering Bulgaria, with the allowance of payment in kind.
Interesting (I have nothing to add)
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I feel like this is slavery with more steps.
Always has been. it's just that instead of being a wage slave in exchange for money they're being a wage slave in exchange for commodities. "payment in kind" I believe it's called
No working for nothing is totally different to working for meat that went bad a week ago.
Chuds when a libertarian gets elected: oh boy, I can’t wait to be paid in gold coins! 
Bosses when a libertarian gets elected: here’s a can of our finest Spam for an honest day’s work
stock options
Who wouldn't want to be paid in vegetable stock.
"Free labor is not a handout. Trust me."
how long before the bottom half of argentine workers are payed in company scrip
I would assume immediately
Company scrip doesn't go bad in 2 days at least.
Or more likely two weeks before you get it because your boss got a sweet bulk deal a month ago.
"This level of optimization has not been done by any other runner in the category for quite a long time. Cementing Milei's run in the REDACTED any% category as the greatest of all time."
His next decree will allow companies to decide the age of consent within their districts
Retvrn to barter society (which was never real, read graeber's debt)
Milei really out here trying to swindle workers with LP-C exchanges
"I will trade you 1 
for 3 of your best 
" statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged
There's no way this policy doesn't end disastrously.
it's even weirder than that. Serfs paid a corn rent (a portion of their crop) to the feudal lord and in exchange weren't kicked off the land or tortured or executed. Milei is paying workers in milksteak wages 🤮 and demanding full days of labor in return
They'll be paid in rotting rat meat, I guarantee it.
Bimetalism but you ran out of metal.
Theres not going to be an Argentina anymore
Vegans (and everyone else) in shambles.
Sure, there's the freedom. But then there's also the shambles. An endless sea of shambles.
The good news is that shambles are also a valid form of currency in Argentina
Alternating between shitting out of their doo doo asses from the lactose intolerance and not shitting for days due to of the lack of fiber.
How long until it becomes standard practice to save on overhead by simply combining the workers foodpay into a homogenous, shelf-stable nutrient slurry?
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