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I don't get how libs can tolerate being taken for granted like this. They're not being mature or practical - they're accepting mistreatment by an establishment sworn to serve them.

Trump and his supporters aren't better, but at least he's telling them what they want to hear. He at least made sure to get checks out to people and had his signature stamped on them.

I dunno, at least there's a strategy there. And Biden has had four fucking years and he's done nothing to get people motivated to vote or even register to vote. Not even going into his participation in genocide, it's just a lack of strategy to the point of self-sabotage.

And the entire Democratic party is complicit in all of it. It's like they want to lose, because all I'm hearing are about how bad trump is/was. And it's like, I was fucking there. And after three years, all they can offer is to give him a verbal reprimand and coverage on every major news network, speech, and social media posting.

It's just mind-blowing to think of the wasted time and energy on the part of the US political system.

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[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 106 points 10 months ago
[-] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 46 points 10 months ago

More and more people need to remember this

[-] Hatandwatch@hexbear.net 101 points 10 months ago

maybe-later-kiddo He hasn't been Trump for four years, that's what he's done!

[-] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 61 points 10 months ago

Listen, fat, there was a dang cheeto in the dang white house

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 76 points 10 months ago

The majority of Americans understanding of how politics impacts their lives in fundamentally vibes based. Their perception of material reality will literally warp from "America is doing great" to "America is not doing great" based off of their political color and the political color of the politician in power.

I have had Trump supporters flat out tell me the world was amazing when Trump was president and that now biden is president there are gangs of ISIS-MSG-13 are razing the countryside and America is 100% communist, and vise versa when it's some shitlib.

Like the most direct impact of political actions have had that Americans really have actually materially felt is the actions of the trade war, covid, and the artificial inflation of necessary commodities.

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 42 points 10 months ago

Covid was significant. It was the last time most of us can ever remember getting any useful monetary help from the govt. And Biden stepped in and dismantled it all while his cronies blamed our brief respute from poverty as the root of inflation.

If I was not trans, I would probably see no direct and personal drawbacks to Trump round 2 (though I would have to abandon my compassion to handwave the everything else)

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 74 points 10 months ago

Excuse me? He restored the soul of this country and you should thank him for that.

[-] someone@hexbear.net 51 points 10 months ago

That's nonsense. If Joe Biden really restored the soul of America in his image, it would now be a land of tattered infrastructure, systemic bigotries, fealty to Wall Street, and the pigheaded denial of geopolitical realities and climate science would be rife.

[-] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 46 points 10 months ago

Most progressive administration in history

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[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 67 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Liberals will cry and list a thousand things that Biden accomplished that don’t matter. And let’s say they do matter. Who gives a shit? Your fetishized “””democracy””” is about THE PEOPLE. Their perception of your governance matters. It doesn’t matter if objectively you did good things for them. If THEY don’t see it, they won’t support you. It’s literally that easy.

Your job is to not only serve them but to make sure they fucking see the results materially with their eye balls. But instead they’ve opted to get angry and complain about their own voters being upset and how tankies are complaining about Palestine. Get a different fucking job if you’re too lazy to do party propaganda. Stupid fucks.

[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 63 points 10 months ago

I think you underestimate the size of the genocide constituency

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[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 58 points 10 months ago

He fulfilled his most important promise: that nothing would fundamentally change. Now get out there and i-voted

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 54 points 10 months ago

I'll remind you they also didn't do that in 2020 so they're sticking with what worked alreadt

[-] Hohsia@hexbear.net 52 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I didn’t know either until I came face to face with an aspiring “organizer” in the DNC network

These people are so fundamentally useless, and I am convinced that they only do what they do so they can feel good about following the rules (designed to prevent anything from changing)

[-] LaBellaLotta@hexbear.net 50 points 10 months ago

It is really incredible. I would have never guessed in 2020 how far below my expectations the reality would be but it is truly remarkable. Literally as bad or worse than Trump in every measurable way. Just utterly deflating to the point where I feel genuinely bad for people who are still emotionally invested in the presidency. Especially young people, I remember being that naive still and it is a cold hard road to the truth.

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[-] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 45 points 10 months ago

Even before his [more recent] tacit support of genocide, Trump set the bar so fucking low and Biden somehow stumbled like he was walking upstairs.

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[-] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 45 points 10 months ago

vote for the "Nothing will change!" Candidate!

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 43 points 10 months ago

He did make good on his campaign promise, nothing fundamentally changed.

Oh wait yeah it did it got worse. soviet-hmm

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[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 38 points 10 months ago

[pointing at a hard dick] this is the most important erection of our lives

[-] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 44 points 10 months ago

this is the most important election of our lives

[-] Sleve_McDichael@hexbear.net 40 points 10 months ago

I’m waiting on that cure for cancer before I can vote for Brandon

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[-] Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida@hexbear.net 39 points 10 months ago

Just like the Bourbons upon their restoration, the restored Democrats learned nothing and forgot nothing. They almost treat their right to votes and government as privileges granted by some secular divinity, more important than any currents of popular opinion.

Now I guess we wait to assess how cyclical their failing is this time around. Will it be different given the world we live in now is not the world as it was in 2017?

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[-] wombat@hexbear.net 39 points 10 months ago

usians are the most propagandized people on earth

[-] Aryuproudomenowdaddy@hexbear.net 38 points 10 months ago

They're much more comfortable being the opposition party because it's a lot easier to tell people there's nothing they can do to improve their lives.

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