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[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 64 points 9 months ago

Multiple mag dumps and I can't tell what they are firing at.

[-] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 76 points 9 months ago

That's the fun part - they don't know either. It's an adventure!

[-] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 38 points 9 months ago

Apparently, it was a mistake. It was the home owner.

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 27 points 9 months ago

What in the flying fuck? Homeowner should be legally entitled to fire back.

[-] FilterItOut@thelemmy.club 7 points 9 months ago

If the homeowner had fired back, and killed the cops, they would likely be cleared of wrongdoing (eventually, like a loooong eventually). It's already happened several times.

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[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

I was gonna make a joke about "hopefully they got the right person", but i guess i forgot I live in the darkest timeline.

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[-] brown567@sh.itjust.works 25 points 9 months ago

Acorn prolly 🤷‍♂️

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[-] TruthAintEasy@kbin.social 53 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Gun scare people. Scared people with guns fire more bullets. More gunfire scares more people, causing them to buy guns for protection. Now those additional scared people with guns use them, bringing that same fear they feel to more of their neighbours, who respond by buying guns to protect themselves...

If you really want an armed populace just make it mandatory for all citizens to complete 1 year of military service, with the people retaining their service arms at home. This way everyone is trained the same way and follows the same standards with their weapons. This takes the 'cool' factor out of owning guns, takes the identity politics out of it, and the criminals will now know that they likely cannot gain the advantage in fire power just by getting a high capacity magazine.

It would also calm the cops down, because the year of manditory service will weed out all the crazies that cant handle the responsibility of gun ownership, and since everyone went to the same program you have an automatic national database of who isnt fit for ownership. Give mental health proffessionals the ability to flag on the database when an idividual is having issues so their weapons can be TEMPORARILY removed untill their mental health is restored.

The 2a guys will also lose their main talking point: government is the one giving them the gun now, they would look stupid REEEing about 'gubberment wants muh guns!!'

It seems like the USA will never say no to guns, so why not go full ham instead of just letting every state make up its own rules as it goes along? The current system has some very obvious flaws. Freedom should not be free, it should require responsibiliy, the proof is in the never ending american gun tragedy.

Edit: accidentally tripple posted, still learning the UI... deleted the two duplicates, and fixed some bad grammar

[-] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 9 months ago

You lost me at mandatory service. No way in hell I’m contributing to the industrial war machine

[-] TruthAintEasy@kbin.social 11 points 9 months ago

Fair enough, there are no perfect solutions

[-] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Are there no mandatory service in the USA?

[-] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 21 points 9 months ago

No. Men between 18 and 25 have to register with the government, but that's it:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_Service_System

[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 7 points 9 months ago

On top of criminal punishments for not registering, you also won't receive any federal assistance for college, employment, loans, etc.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago

They didn't even finish "saying drop the gun." And judging by the complete lack of return fire I'm going to guess that even if the homeowner was dumb enough to raise their gun at the cops, shots 2-64 were unnecessary and did nothing but place everyone in the next couple apartments in danger.

[-] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 9 months ago

This whole story was ridiculous—the cops were completely in the wrong. They were responding to a call in one apartment and were told a different apartment had a window broken. They went to check it out, and this was their reaction. The woman they shot at was a friend of the apartment tenant.

The friend was shot 5 times and is lucky to be alive. These cops should never be allowed to touch a gun again.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/dramatic-body-camera-video-released-officers-shooting-woman/story?id=107171359

[-] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The friend was shot 5 times and is lucky to be alive. These cops should never be allowed to touch a gun again.

Sorry, but if this happened where I live, the officers would be on trial on multiple accounts.

[-] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 9 months ago

There is an investigation in progress, and the evidence is going to be handed over to a grand jury. This is a recent incident that is still unfolding.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago

That's a whole lot of faith for a system that routinely declines to prosecute cops who kill people in the exact same circumstances.

[-] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 9 months ago

I didn’t say I had faith in the system, I simply said what is happening. The end result is not yet known, and you are correct that there isn’t a great track record of police accountability in America.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

That's the problem though. It's always, "wait for the investigation" and then a year later it's "we investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong."

[-] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 9 months ago

Yes, I agree, it is a problem. I’m not arguing against you in the slightest. I have done nothing other than say the facts of what is occurring here.

There is a problem with police accountability in America, these cops were irresponsible, and an investigation is ongoing. I’m not sure what else you expect me to say that isn’t speculation or opinion.

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[-] resetbypeer@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago

Disappointing video. I expected a column of Abraham tanks to join the party, driven by killer whales.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago

That would have been the official police statement if not for the body cams.

[-] ryan213@lemmy.ca 20 points 9 months ago
[-] Spaghetti_Hitchens@kbin.social 11 points 9 months ago

Seriously. Fuck that plant

[-] brown567@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago

It might have had an acorn!

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[-] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

My thoughts exactly... like, it's dead, let it rest in pieces, sheesh...

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[-] mononomi@feddit.nl 14 points 9 months ago

Anybody know an article about this? Can't find it and really curious about the backstory

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Jesus Christ. Yet again a law abiding citizen is responsible for recognizing the police and responding in the exact right way in a split second. ~~While the police are allowed to act like terrified wild animals.~~

I take that sentence back after seeing the run up footage linked in this article. This was nothing more than an ambush. They knock on the door and then move off to the side. They then open fire the second they see her. There was zero chance for the victim to even realize it was the police.

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 13 points 9 months ago

It's legal to carry a gun in the US, but cops can execute you if you have one. Really surprised there haven't been more reports of homeowners mag dumping at cops and then the excuse at trial could just be "thought it was a break in".

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[-] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

If the thing they were shooting at was ever alive it wouldn't have been the first full mag of bullets unloaded on their body, but after several mags by several cops being dumped on the body, then by the time it's taken to the morgue it'll have more holes than swiss cheese.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

Apparently she not only survived, but she was also only hit 5 times out of at least 40 shots. These cops need to be fired because they panic and they suck at shooting if they ever were in real danger.

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

I think the poor plant caught more rounds than the woman. These cops are terrible at everything about this

[-] TseseJuer@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

not very american cheese of them

[-] amio@kbin.social 8 points 9 months ago

Ironically "Swiss cheese" is pretty American

[-] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Ironically, there are very little holes in actual Swiss cheese.

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[-] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 9 months ago

Patriots are in shambles! But then again, dude wasn't fat enough to be visible from behind the tree, so he probably wasn't even American. /j

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