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[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 60 points 5 months ago

Oh fuck off with this JK Rowling "Actually, Dumbledore was gay!" shit

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 29 points 5 months ago

The fun thing is I was yelling about this years ago; Nick and Nora are American war criminals and Beth portrays them as a happy little couple in a happy little leave it to beaver suburb instead of actually engaging with the story. Coming out and claiming "akshually we intended this all along!" just confirms that they were cowards who understood what they were doing but didn't have the balls to make the MC a war criminal.

[-] RNAi@hexbear.net 14 points 5 months ago

The War Veterans Hall in FO4 has a document saying "oh we are so eager to hear Nate talk"

So yes, he absolutely was megaHitler

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[-] invo_rt@hexbear.net 46 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Regardless of who owns the IP, it's fanfiction

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 35 points 5 months ago

I have come around to the rigid and dogmatic belief that all fiction is fan fiction and authorship isn't very important.

[-] SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net 25 points 5 months ago

Back in the Star Wars EU days my mantra was "it's canon of you want it to be" because the official thing where different sources had different levels of canon created massive unresolved contradictions anyway.

[-] Teekeeus@hexbear.net 18 points 5 months ago

Only knights of the old republic is canon, actually

[-] AutomatedPossum@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago

That, and the Ewoks tv series.

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 24 points 5 months ago

Also canon is not at all important when compared to just telling a good story

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[-] Magician@hexbear.net 27 points 5 months ago

Diagetic Essentialism has entered the chat.

[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 45 points 5 months ago

And this is why I play with one of those cute little "alternate start" mods so I don't have to be a war criminal. My wastelander was a regular ass vaultie who just got really good with lasers; and wants to tell Maxson's fascist ass to dance.

[-] taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml 43 points 5 months ago

I'm a Chinese agent anime girl spreading communism to the Commonwealth every time lmao

[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 5 months ago

Fuckin based.

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[-] Frank@hexbear.net 44 points 5 months ago

If they weren't cowards they would have had you actually do this in the intro and then pulled the camera back to show Tim Horton's.

[-] Rom@hexbear.net 26 points 5 months ago

Someone drops their bottle of maple syrup in shock.

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[-] laziestflagellant@hexbear.net 42 points 5 months ago

I never play as Nate so all this time I've been saying 'lol lmao' at his dead corpse in the icebox out of heterophobia when I could have been going 'lol lmao' because some dumb fascist war criminal got owned.

[-] Aryuproudomenowdaddy@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago

People who always pick the female character stay winning.

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[-] Ossay@hexbear.net 41 points 5 months ago

confirming my assertion that 95% of video game writers are dumb

[-] Magician@hexbear.net 40 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
[-] IMF_DOOM@hexbear.net 49 points 5 months ago

My "Nate is NOT a war criminal!" shirt is raising a lot of questions already answered by the shirt

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 44 points 5 months ago

member of US armed forces not a war criminal

doubt

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 27 points 5 months ago

Lol the coward couldn't even stick with it.

[-] Tychoxii@hexbear.net 12 points 5 months ago

he got a call from the Toddler.

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[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 32 points 5 months ago

Emil Pagliarulo is so incredibly fucking stupid he doesn't even pronounce his own last name correctly

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[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 32 points 5 months ago

this would be an interesting decision if they had actually made it in the game and also if bethesda knew how to write a character.

[-] laziestflagellant@hexbear.net 27 points 5 months ago

Nate and Nora are war criminals + Nate/Nora (the player character) is a synth with constructed memories of Shaun's idealized version of his parents could have been something interesting to base the MSQ around

[-] oregoncom@hexbear.net 31 points 5 months ago

Only the interplay/obsidian fallouts are canon.

[-] RION@hexbear.net 29 points 5 months ago

I was going to say "obviously he was joking, I am Emil Pagliarulo's strongest hater but he's not that ridiculous " only to find that he was not, in fact, joking.

I'm willing to accept that he was (poorly) trying to say the soldier from FO1 was the inspiration for one of the types of people Nate could be giving the broad template of "veteran"

[-] notceps@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago

I mean this is pretty much Emil though, he is very much an 'improv' or 'yes and...' writer imo, that's why some of the missions he designed in thief 2 are so good because there's just a lot to discover, that style just doesn't work for narratives and stuff like we can see here.

[-] porcupine@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 5 months ago

Could someone explain the missing context? I will not be going on Elon Musk's X dot com.

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 39 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

So one of the main devs for Fallout 4 revealed as a fun fact that the protagonist in Fallout 4 was one of the armour soldiers from the intro of Fallout 1 where they execute a canadian prisoner of war, so according to the geneva convention that constitutes a war crime since the protag participated in the execution by not stopping it

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[-] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 27 points 5 months ago

Canadiancide?

waow-based

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 27 points 5 months ago

I'm never playing Fallout 4, but is your main character a ghoul or something? Cause he'd have to be like 200+ years old to be that guy. This sounds dumb as hell that he even could be that guy let alone is. Fallout really shouldn't be that fucking hard to write for unless it was the first 2 games, those give you a fucktonne of setting and history to work with. A lot of New Vegas' general setting and frame was really just the logical follow up to Fallout 2. Don't get me wrong, it's fantastically written but the broad strokes of things can be handled by following the ending(s) of 2 in a pretty straightforward unsurprising way. Ya gotta make the details good but there is an historical momentum put in place by the first game and expanded on in the second that does lay put a LOT of potential groundwork for sequels.

[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 34 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'm never playing Fallout 4, but is your main character a ghoul or something? Cause he'd have to be like 200+ years old to be that guy. This sounds dumb as hell that he even could be that guy let alone is.

Iirc MC (You can choose between the husband or the wife) enters the vault during the intro where China nuclear bombing the US and gets frozen for 200+ years.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 25 points 5 months ago

That's a better backstory for an NPC than the main.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 31 points 5 months ago

Beth insists on making every Fallout protagonist a vault dweller because they have no imagination.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago

The concept of the post apocalypse is totally a brand new idea that only fslloutnhas ever done and no one could get the grasp of it unless they get eased in

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[-] ItsPequod@hexbear.net 31 points 5 months ago

There is in fact a ghoul NPC who has been locked in a fridge for 200+ years, it's considered possibly the worst quest in the series

[-] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 17 points 5 months ago

Also that ghoul was a child when he got locked in, and remained a child for those 200 years. The player then reunites him with his parents who are also ghouls who have been living in their house which is about a 30 second run from the fridge.

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[-] axont@hexbear.net 30 points 5 months ago

Bethesda wanted Fallout 4 to be a smooth entry point into the series for some reason, probably money. The game itself has almost no connection to the other games, dialogue is heavily simplified, and the gameplay trends more towards shooter than RPG. You get a suit of power armor in the first hour if you know where you're going.

So the game starts off with a short pre-war introduction to get players up to speed on what pre-war society was like, what the apocalypse is, what vaults are, etc.

[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago

The Concord thing still bothers me.

Bethesda literally created a fucking gameplay marketing video that included a bunch of silly characters and a suit of power armor and a mini gun and a vertibird and a death claw.

And then they left that shit in the game and it's the first full quest. It's so goddamn bad and I hate all the characters especially fucking Marcy who I never look at and constantly have to hear that I'm bothering her by trying to talk to her when againz I most certainly am not.

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[-] Magician@hexbear.net 26 points 5 months ago

Not the shooter!

liberalism

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 23 points 5 months ago

I'm currently very torn between my staunchly held belief that every single US soldier is a war criminal and my similarly staunch belief that Canadians are not human.

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