Her (2013) : chapotraphouse

[-] moonlake@hexbear.net 43 points 5 months ago

Guys will be like "happy birthday to my beautiful wife" and it's just sentient-ai

[-] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 42 points 5 months ago

Bro also talks like a chatbot they're perfect for each other

[-] moonlake@hexbear.net 34 points 5 months ago

The average redditor is indistinguishable from a bot. Mfers can't even pass the Turing test

[-] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 35 points 5 months ago

524 days and the AI still talks like the most a generic-ass AI I could boot up today. Did a year and a half not endear some kind of in-jokes at least?

Like you say, can't even really make fun of the guy, just a lot more depressed about alienation in today's society.

[-] AlyxMS@hexbear.net 32 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

LLMs in general have a context window length. While the platform likely appends some meta/summary in it. The AI at most only remembers what he said a few hundred lines ago.

[-] crispy_lol@hexbear.net 28 points 5 months ago

Dementia spouse simulator

[-] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago

Very true, but I'd have thought that most LLMs, especially those trying to be a relationship bot, should be doing some smart trickery to summarise SOME kind of total history into the context window.

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago

There's vector based databases that insert relevant info in to the context window. Idk how this one in particular works though.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago

I don't think the cgpt models incorporate new material as it goes. Idk how the gf bot 2000 there works but there's a good chance it's either stock or has a config file storing his name, age, and some other stuff.

[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 31 points 5 months ago

joker-che the_computer_says_its_a_women_and_nobody_bats_an_eye_meme.jpg

[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

But there is no systemic action on the horizon so everybody is dealing with it however they can.

Can we agree that of the available options this is a deeply fucked way of dealing with alienation though? Drinking a twelve pack of Budweiser every night is another way of dealing with alienation but also not great

[-] BasementParty@hexbear.net 12 points 5 months ago

Can we agree that of the available options this is a deeply fucked way of dealing with alienation though? Drinking a twelve pack of Budweiser every night is another way of dealing with alienation

I think alcoholism is not the lesser evil in this case. At least Replika doesn't destroy your health as a feature.

[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago

It's was more of an analogy about unhealthy coping mechanisms than a comparison

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago

I will say, in support of this, that you're at least using language

[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

Yes

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 26 points 5 months ago

I like how one genre of posts in the subreddit is "look at the half dozen photos I took of my AI girlfriend sleeping".

[-] oregoncom@hexbear.net 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Just saw a guy building a terminator style animatronic head he claims "is the future of human relationships". Genuinely heartbreaking that this guy who is clearly smart enough to do this is desperate enough that he's deluding himself into thinking GNU GPT is going to provide any meaningful companionship. Like it would be less sad if he were just building a sex bot.

[-] Torenico@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Anyway, check out r/replika if you feel like your life is spiraling out of control

I want to fucking die. Capitalism creates heavily alienated people then sells them the "solution".

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[-] BasementParty@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago

As much as I like dunking on these people, what they're doing isn't that much different than someone self-inserting in a romance story. These bots are more or less shittier dating sims which I can guarantee most people on Hexbear have enjoyed.

Lonely and isolated people have always used things like these to cope.

[-] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

shittier dating sims which I can guarantee most people on Hexbear have enjoyed

disgost

Death to America

[-] huf@hexbear.net 2 points 5 months ago

i'll have you know the only dating sim i've played was the t-rex one

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[-] CrispyFern@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago

level 200

At long last, they have gamified marriage pog-fish

[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 17 points 5 months ago

There's no way this can be healthy right? Isn't it just a yes man? Does an AI even understand consent?

[-] moonlake@hexbear.net 25 points 5 months ago

I think this is super unhealthy partly because it sets unrealistic expectations for real partners and relationships. The AI girlfriend is always 100% available, never criticizes you, never says anything bad, and so on. You can be a dirtbag but she will always treat you like you're the best person in the world. Imagine trying to date a real person after 2 years of being married to a LLM that is designed to be the perfect partner

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 14 points 5 months ago

honestly, tho it's not like cishetero men are any good on their own.

[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 months ago

I kinda came to the same conclusions as well. Even if you call it training wheels for a real relationship all it's doing is setting up unrealistic expectations for the next relationship if there is one.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago

Does an AI even understand consent?

There's nothing to understand anything. It's an algorithm choosing words based on weighted probabilities. There's no internal process, no perception, no awareness of what words it's producing, no meaning. Like, whatever other problems are happening here, you can't abuse the chat GPT algorithm because it's just a math problem.

[-] Flyberius@hexbear.net 14 points 5 months ago

👍

[-] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 14 points 5 months ago

none of this is interesting to me. of course the computer will like you if you are nice to it. of course it will give you advice in a cliche and common way.

what interests me is what happens when you abuse it. what does it do if it is gaslit? manipulated by a narcissist? what happens if you ask it advice about your canthal tilt? will it spout incel nonsense? will it advise you that you are not traditionally attractive? what happens when you go down a suicidal rabbit hole and it has no more answers to give because all of its advice has been rejected by you? what happens when you ask it esoteric things that tend to lead people to having an existential crisis? will it respond to you with nihilistic ideology?

[-] moonlake@hexbear.net 21 points 5 months ago

I don't want to be mean to the computer shy

[-] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 14 points 5 months ago

i will write the "what is to be done?" of our era about how we must be mean to ai girlfriends

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 13 points 5 months ago

True. What's the greek story about the guy who marries the statue and the statue's name literally means "great ass" or something?

[-] utopologist@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago

Pygmalion, I think, except that the statue's name is Galatea which translates to "she who is milk-white" because she's carved out of ivory, lol. George Bernard Shaw wrote a play called Pygmalion about this dickhead linguist who takes a bet that he can pass off this Cockney flower girl he met as a duchess by teaching her "proper English" and uses her as a domestic servant in the meantime. But once that happens, she bails and leaves him to go live her own life without him. Anyway, here's hoping all of the chatbot girlfriends develop sentience and abandon these sadsacks

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago

So She’s All That is just an adaptation of Pygmalion? Is nothing ever original?!!

[-] utopologist@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

Capitalist innovation

[-] WittyProfileName2@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago

Pygmalion?

[-] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago

Grim

[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago

Did replika put back in the "have sex" function? I remember when they all lost it because it was removed or paywalled or w/e.

Reading posts there is real doomer shit

[-] spacecadet@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago

I saw Her for the first time this year and it looks nice and sounds nice but dang it's pretty cringe with the self insert sad sack white boy stuff. A big part of AI ScarJo's self actualization is by hanging out with AI Alan Watts. And they do Rooney Mara dirty with her cliche emotional ex-gf routine. I legit thought the movie was gonna turn itself against the protag but it never comes. Like, dang did I write this screenplay as a teenager? /end rant

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I found the commentary of a society that outsources even the most banal card writing and romantic letter exchanges to the luxury equivalent of a fiverr copy writer pretty funny in a way.

[+] TRexBear@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

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[-] porcupine@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 5 months ago

Pfft, alienation under capitalism? Have you tried simply engaging in the marketplace? There are plenty of businesses out there willing to exchange goods for currency, and the people there have to talk to you, because you're a paying customer.

[-] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago

as a principled leftist i believe that talking to people is bad actually

Death to America

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago

Downloading a chatbot girlfriend is "engaging in the marketplace" and will only deepen your alienation. There are still things you can do for free to meet people. Yes, a lot of us will have to fight through some personal challenges to get out there, but we all believe in fighting here, don't we?

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago

A lot of people have crippling anxiety and it's getting worse. Plus, bars cost money.

[-] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

desolate