I think the real upsetting thing isn't Biden's performance, or having Biden as president for four more years. He achieved quite a bit after all. The real upsetting thing is the DNC being such cunts that they even pushed for this debate, hoping that Biden could win, only to deny and ignore Biden's abhorrent performance immediately after. That Bernie got shafted twice by them, that is the really upsetting part.

I am a tankie and voting for Biden lmao. The Prolitariat must be protected till enough class conciousness is achieved for Socialism to succeed.

I'd vote for ToS era Pike over Trump. I'd vote for a candidate who only communicates via ouija board over Trump. I'd vote to not have a president for 4 years before I'd vote for Trump.

It's crazy that Trump can get convicted of fraud, be found liable for sexual assault, promise to abuse presidential power to get revenge against those who cross him, actively undermine both national and global security, promise to round up millions and put them into camps, attempt to overthrow the election and refuse to not try it again, and so on, and his side is still so loyal they'll wear solidarity diapers for him.

I’m voting Brandon but let’s not pretend he didn’t shit the bed. It was fucking awful. Brandon should fuck off, but I’d vote for a corpse over any republican, and that will probably be true for the rest of my life.

Technically I'm voting for Biden, in reality I'm voting against Trump. I really wish I had a better option...

Just because you are still voting Biden, doesn't mean you don't care.
It just means you still don't want the raving malignant narcissist Trump.
Any somewhat normal person would be the obvious choice over Trump. Any person who is not clearly a traitor to USA and Democracy would be preferable to Trump.

What I've seen so many people not understand with the situation we are in right now, is that we can't fix our current situation in one election. Everything is far to tucked up for that, so the best that can be done is vote for the least fucked up option and work to improve things. People refusing to participate or vote for the candidate who is unfortunately our best option currently (biden) are doing more damage than the people voting for the fascist party. The perfect candidate/option does not exist and never will (obviously not saying everything biden has done has been good).

This is some weird ass propaganda.

The best thing that Biden ever did was just to not be Trump.

Why are these memes so weirdly die-hard in the support of a man that is visibly unfit for the 4 years of presidency?

No one is actually excited about old Joe. It's just that he's simply not Trump.

It would be best if he steps down so that we can get a person in office that actually excites people for more than just not being the other guy.

I'm voting against Trump. Not thrilled to have a president who might have to have his Oval Office relocated to a nursing home.

Yeah, some ppl don't get that you don't have to like Biden, to vote against trump. 🤷‍♂️

I'm voting for the man with one foot in the coffin that is not trump, but it doesn't matter because I don't live in a swing state.

Yeah, I feel like people are freaking out and ignoring that Biden (and Trump) are largely the people they surround themselves with, and the policies they push.

They've both been president for years.

This is what Germany in 1929 was - without social media.

Biden loses

OP blames the 5 tankies actually living in the USA for voting 3rd party

Man I love love love not being from the US.

Well when the only other vote is fascism, hate, and bullying... Yeah we're gonna vote for the not ridiculous choice.

fuck off Yanks, stop making every post about you

Íf he wore a clown suit and only spoke Pig-Latin during the debate.... considering the alternative

He would STILL be the only viable candidate worth voting for

Tankies? CNN, MSNBC, and NYTimes are all concerned.

But NOOOOO both sides both sides lalalaa can't hear you both sides lalalaa /s

In their moral justification, the argument of the lesser evil has played a prominent role. If you are confronted with two evils, the argument runs, it is your duty to opt for the lesser one, whereas it is irresponsible to refuse to choose altogether. Its weakness has always been that those who choose the lesser evil forget quickly that they chose evil.

-Hannah Arendt, German-American philosopher and political theorist, in fuckin 1964 lmao. some things never change!

I've been called many names, including "tankie", so I'll take a stab at responding.

I'm not mad about the debate at all. I expected something fairly similar. I'm mad that Biden and the Democratic leadership seems to have put their own interests above the interest of the ~~party~~ people (edit: Ugh. Terrible typo).

If Biden had gracefully stepped aside and given just about any other Democrat his full support, we'd be in a much better position now. Instead we have a candidate with a ton of baggage and who presents an easy target for Trump's style of argument. Many mainstream Democrats, including the NYT, are finally starting to realize this. Unfortunately it's probably a year too late. At this point it would just make it look like Demoratic kingmakers forced him out.

If I went by the modern definition of "tankie" as, an anti-american authoritarian communist. I probably wouldn't be mad at any of this. I'd be cackling with glee because either of the current nominees will be terrible for the US. Neither of them has a serious long term plan. Neither of them can articulate a policy position. Both of them will continue to erode the power and moral authority of the United States.

Like it or not. Trump is likely to be the next president https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/. At this point it's probably wise to start thinking about how to limit his impact and how to start cleaning up the mess afterwards.

Considering that Biden's main competitor is an actual neonazi and the USA have an undemocratic election system that disadvantages all but two parties, there's pretty much no choice but the senile grandpa who's not a neonazi.

Biden still owes me $600

Would be nice to have a candidate who stands for something other than "he's not the other guy" or "I'm sticking it to [group]!"