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Although I have not watched a lot of Hasan videos , I think he is not actually leftist ! He is liberal at best , posing to be leftist ?

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[-] soiejo@hexbear.net 78 points 1 year ago

He went into Ethan Klein's podcats, whose audience is mostly liberals and socdems and said, in no uncertain terms that the uighur genocide is a lie. He is good friends with the Deprogram boys, which are open MLs. He regularly criticizes the dems.

There is a lot of criticism to be done about hasan piker, but dismissing him as a liberal feels like the usual "no true leftist" purity test

[-] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

He went into Ethan Klein's podcats, whose audience is mostly liberals and socdems and said, in no uncertain terms that the uighur genocide is a lie.

Damn. I don't think I'd have the guts to do that. When did he do that?

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[-] Flinch@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago

Good guy, great for baby leftists, he did a livestream with Adam Conover walking on the WGA picket lines talking about the history of unions, which is better than 99% of the rest of twitch imo

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No thoughts on him but I find it interesting how the trueanon and CTH subreddits were more left than the podcasters but hasanabi's audience is more right than hasanabi

[-] CriticalOtaku@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

Twitchchat freeze-gamer vs. citations-needed listeners

[-] CriticalOtaku@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

He's become the best first step on the leftwing pipeline, replacing Breadtube and the Dirtbag left podcasters, which honestly isn't saying all that much. shrug-outta-hecks

I dunno, we work with what we got. Just saying that I'd rather point baby leftists to hasan-ok-dude rather than Contrapoints now.

I just realised we need The Deprogram and Blowback emojis now tho lol.

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[-] TheWorldSpins@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

He's pretty good actually. I don't watch his content because he spends too much time yelling at chatters but 90% of what I've seen is good. My main issue with him was some ace-exclusionary comments he made a while back but he's grown past that now.

[-] jungekatz@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Tbh most content i have seen by him is talking about the GOP candidates and he is yelling , it feels like he is a dem , dods not talk much about theory , in a recent video he did talk about few good things but apart from that idk !

[-] TheWorldSpins@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

I'm not gonna type too many words defending him, he's a millionaire after all. Great class traitor though.

[-] Sinister@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

A lot of the american-LA based leftist “influencers” are just fishing for a potential future career. Hasan is too “deep in the system”.

[-] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He is liberal at best , posing to be leftist ?

He'd be the first pro-China liberal.

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[-] President_Obama@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That link didn't work for me for some reason, but this one does.

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[-] Dr_Gabriel_Aby@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

Gateway leftist, it’s all okay, don’t get attached to Internet personalities, if you like listening it’s fine, just don’t be parasocial with podcasters.

[-] DADDYCHILL@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

hasan isnt a gateway, he is a leftist. as long as you ignore the contradictions of him living in a hollywood mansion and engaging in treat culture, the dude is a very important internet personality because hes basically using his immense wealth and privilege to do praxis like every day. hes a bourgeoisie class traitor like fredrich engles. nothing less than complete uncritical support for hasan should be from this website. he is far more influential here than the chapo podcast.

[-] Dr_Gabriel_Aby@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Probably has done more for the left than me. He’s a guy, Chapo dudes are people, im just saying don’t be to attached to the personalities in a positive or negative way. If you like the context listen, if you don’t, don’t hate and froth when people say they do.

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[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He's the antidote to vaush type fake "left" liberals, he's extremely useful and a rare genuine pipeline for the left

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[-] Beaver@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

Some bad takes, but an important part of the pipeline to convert babies to leftism.

[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

seems like a lovely guy. his streams aren't for me tho. the arguments about whether a communist can own a fancy car are stupid.

[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

oh yeah and he's sexy

[-] blight@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago
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[-] princeofsin@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If it wasn't for hasan I wouldn't have discovered bell hooks, J sakai, Carol Anderson, Hetronormativity, comp het, and cussy.

[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

He seems to have done a decent job of radicalising people from my own small surveying of the situation.

I don't hear other streamers getting mentioned anywhere near as often as Hasan when people discuss their path towards radicalisation, for whatever that's worth.

I have never watched a full stream of his but he seems fine from clips that I've seen. I have seen him doing the typical streamerbro response/react videos and there's the inevitable drama streams etc. along with him keeping up with the hot take cycle so, y'know, he'll talk about Oppenheimer or the Barbie movie or whatever because it's relevant to pop culture at the moment.

I think he probably fills a similar niche to something like The Dollop which is leftwing content with emphasis on content (in the worst interpretation of the word). If that's what people on the left find interesting or entertaining then cool. I'd rather people be exposing themselves to left wing content than Fox News or whatever.

But at the same time there's a trap in that streamerbros aren't going to teach you theory and The Dollop is not a viable substitute for praxis but thinking that it is can lead people astray; consuming content isn't doing a leftism.

I'd say that if he feels like a liberal to you then that's probably a good indication that your own ideological development surpasses whatever he offers in his streams, which is a good sign and it means that you're looking for something more theory-heavy and less about the almighty content.

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[-] LaBellaLotta@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

He is a really great part about of the pipeline if you know what I mean panting

[-] jungekatz@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Yes ! The pipeline !

[-] robinn2@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

His views on China are nonsense, his views on the DPRK are nonsense, he’s okay on other stuff.

[-] sempersigh@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago
[-] Ardipithecus@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Personally I enjoy watching him, more than other streamers. As others have said, he's important for the pipeline. What I will add is, for better or worse depending on how you look at it, he's a "dude's dude" which I think helps with the dumb "socialist soyboy" stereotype bs.

[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Streamers get the wall. Sorry, no exceptions

[-] vomit_sounds@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Did a bunch of shit like having been a John and other stuff (Brofessor), which he seems to regret. Wouldn't say he "radicalizes" people bc to me that means pushing people into violent/open to violence when tactically sound, instead of making them say controversial things. I still don't trust him or his audience, but people get really angry when you poke at their idols, so whatever.

Keep watching him and giving him 5 bucks if that is what you want. There are worse people. I am sure you are doing your part while watching him showcase gucci slippers and talking about how good trains are. debord-tired

[-] proletarian_girlboss@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 year ago

He seems like the best of the political twitch streamers. But that is a very low standard. I dislike the kind of content he creates so I never really viewed his videos beyond just a few times a few years ago. He does give me somewhat of a liberal feeling as well. Especially when people imply he has actual political significance beyond just entertainment media.

[-] showmustgo@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Just don't ask him about the DPRK

[-] o_d@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago

I love Hasan. I'm not going to pretend that he's a ML, but calling him a liberal is pretty insulting. He frequently defends and is friends with many MLs. His takes on the PRC and the DPRK are very much lacking in nuance and he seems uninformed when it comes to the material conditions that lead to the situation in Ukraine. Otherwise, I tend to agree with him on most other things.

Ultimately, he's creating entertainment. If you're tuning in to hear a dialectical materialist perspective on world events, then there are much more appropriate sources. If you're looking to be informed with regard to the word vomit that liberal and conservative (and mostly USAian) media present to their audience without wanting to gouge out your eyes and ears, he manages to make this entertaining while still providing very good counter-commentary.

[-] Stoatmilk@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

He's the rare anti-imperialist socdem

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