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[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 101 points 3 months ago

The Motherland will always reject fascism

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[-] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 99 points 3 months ago

I love when reality is laughably on the nose

[-] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 65 points 3 months ago

This is "undergraduate creative writing assignment" levels of on the nose.

[-] StalinIsMaiWaifu@lemmygrad.ml 44 points 3 months ago

I'm starting to believe in simulation theory. I think the fall of the USSR was the planned end and now some alien is just seeing what wacky hijinks they can cause in our world.

[-] supafuzz@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago

"With this nation's death, the thread of prophecy is severed. Restore a saved game to restore the weave of fate, or persist in the doomed world you have created"

[-] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago

I keep poking at a short story based on a literal fever dream I had, where I woke up from the torment nexus and learned we were all reactionary war criminals being rehabilitated by being forced to live in the hell we'd fought to make, over and over again until we learned better. That whole line of thinking is real cognitohazard shit, though.

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[-] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 3 months ago

When line goes up enough it overflows the buffer and clobbers the stack.

[-] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago

Me when my.last darkest dungeon character just won't die

[-] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 83 points 3 months ago

If this was a visual metaphor in a movie or a video game people would call it lazy lol

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 77 points 3 months ago

Lol they consider communism worse than Nazism, but they decide to keep the statue and change the emblem. The equivalent of a democrat keeping a confederate statue and putting an afro on its head. How can anyone take these people seriously?

[-] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 65 points 3 months ago

Just for the sake of discussion, this is an odd thing to do, right? To repurpose monuments? I feel like you either tear them down wholecloth or have them around as some sort of memorial. To have national pride in a monument, except that one bit, seems so odd.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 63 points 3 months ago

I like repurposing monuments when it's funny, like that one confederate statue where someone cut off the rider but left the horse, and over the plaque they just spraypainted HORSE

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 52 points 3 months ago

It's because they're trying to convince everyone that the USSR had no place in their nation's history aside from the bad stuff

It's why they covered the hammer and sickle, it's why they turned that Lenin statue into Darth Vader and it's why they keep lifting a murderous piece of shit like Bandera up as a national icon

[-] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 25 points 3 months ago

I feel like that would arrive you at tearing those monuments down, not changing them around a bit, which is why the whole thing seems so odd to me

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 29 points 3 months ago

The problem being is that they want to take over the history, to subsume it and make it their own

Being capitalists however, they do it on the cheap and we end up here

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Cost too much to tear down probably

That and knowing what they rebuild in its place won't look nearly as cool

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 49 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That’s because the country rejects its rich history within the USSR in favor of random psychopaths massacring people and selling their countrymen and country to the wolves. What culture is there left to be proud of when you denounce your culture? You either start from scratch, or you desperately delude yourself by appropriating what was already there.

Ukrainian nationalists and liberals will “ACKSHUALLY” when you mention “Soviets” fought against fascism or liberated Auschwitz because “it was Ukrainians who did it.” That’s correct, but they’re desperate to make it a vacuum to create a new narrative. Same with them banning V-Day even though it’s a celebration of ALL soviets defeating fascism and replaced it with some generic bullshit while inviting the US to participate.

[-] T34_69@hexbear.net 33 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

liberated Auschwitz because “it was Ukrainians who did it.”

Seen this before but not sure where this comes from because ~ackshually~ the 322nd rifle division was formed in the Moscow military district and was 90% Russian at its inception. Haven't really looked into the anti-communists' claim though.

[-] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago

Rolling with this surely I'd still tear down the historical monuments and replace them for the random psychopath massacrarers?

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yes, but my other point is that they appropriate what is already there. You cannot deny that Ukraine was a major contributor to defeating fascism or very industrious or prosperous under the USSR. Not even the pro-west nationalists and fanboys. But they will try to spin it so that it was simply Ukrainians pulling themselves up by the bootstraps in spite of Russian repression instead of a team effort. You know, a union.

Destroying a statue of a mythological persona means completely denying their successful Soviet history which would be pathetic because their modern history is not better. Instead, you leave it to acknowledge your role, then appropriate it to change the narrative to fit your new image. “We were successful, but the ruskies held us down!” It’s essentially nationalist nostalgia and desire for when they mattered and had strength but discarding the ideology that got them that strength.

[-] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago

Destroying a statue of a mythological persona means completely denying their successful Soviet history which would be pathetic because their modern history is not better. Instead, you leave it to acknowledge your role, then appropriate it to change the narrative to fit your new image. “We were successful, but the ruskies held us down!” It’s essentially nationalist nostalgia and desire for when they mattered and had strength but discarding the ideology that got them that strength.

I'm not trying to be arguitative but if I claim myself as this grand industrial producing bootstrap nation replacing bits of symbols on our national treasured / hated monument still feels odd

[-] yoink@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

ever will the human mind astound us with its ability to hold contradictions with conviction

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[-] Guamer@hexbear.net 21 points 3 months ago

From the looks of it, this is a really big one, so maybe it would be a waste/too much of a pain to fully destroy.

[-] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 20 points 3 months ago

Blow the legs out of the 100m statue surrounded by well over 100+m of hillside full of shrubs and just leave the pieces there as a new, powerful memorial seems so much easier than doing 100m high construction work that falls apart after a year

[-] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago

it's very strange behavior.

[-] Cummunism@hexbear.net 57 points 3 months ago

Ukraine is master of the self-own

[-] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 47 points 3 months ago

The jokes just write themselves.

[-] TheChemist@hexbear.net 44 points 3 months ago

I love when real life has foreshadowing.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago

the trident sucks and is ugly. why does nobody talk about this. also the blue and yellow flag is cringe as hell. people need to talk about how bad the aesthetics of the ukraine seems to be.

[-] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago

Guy who plays Iyanden in 40k-ass country.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago

The country has the tastes and preferences of a 4 year old boy

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[-] BobDole@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The Ukrainian SSR had a banging flag

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