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Apple, Microsoft, Sony…it’s cool to hate them but can we please direct some fucking ire to this absolute pinnacle of piece of shittery that’s always on the frontier of the shittiest business practices in all things IT?

How has this compamy escaped a class action lawsuit by the entire population of the world?

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[-] WorkingClassCorpse@hexbear.net 2 points 2 hours ago

Before I even knew to hate Adobe, they were my favorite company to pirate from in college. Them and ChaosGroup

I am admittedly not a super-user, I basically only use vector and raster editing maybe once every 6 months, but for what it's worth I've managed to survive using affinity for most of my needs. I work in the AEC industry so we have a different PDF editor (thankfully)

I think affinity avoids getting under Adobe's skin by omitting certain popular features (for example, Designer still does not have image trace, which was probably 50% of what i used illustrator for), but otherwise they're serviceable

[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 hours ago

I pray that a decent alternative to their suite becomes Linux-compatible (even if it's just a buggy WINE prefix) because whilst Adobe sucks ass, I'm struggling with Inkscape and GIMP (though I'm pretty decent at both nowadays)

[-] WorkingClassCorpse@hexbear.net 1 points 2 hours ago

for what it's worth - I've heard some people have limited success running affinity software on linux

Haven't tried it myself, and they're upfront about some features being broken, but it might check enough boxes to work.

Here's a repo

[-] anarcho_blinkenist@hexbear.net 5 points 7 hours ago

Acrobat is the most unusable piece of shit I've ever had the displeasure of trying to read simple text PDFs on. Glad I remembered Sumatra exists goddamn

[-] Krem@hexbear.net 6 points 10 hours ago

i use pirated 5-6 years old versions of PS and AI (illustrator, not the machine learning buzzword) that don't have any AI (the machine learning buzzword) features and all the DRM functions have been neutered. i bought a download link on taobao for like 10 kuai, worth it.

i use them because the alternatives (gimp/inkscape) are pretty shit imo, but for drawing and colouring i use krita which is actually pretty good

[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 9 points 12 hours ago

i don't know anyone who likes adobe

[-] Owl@hexbear.net 15 points 14 hours ago

Adobe managed to suppress the entire field of creative software by buying out every potential future competitor and killing off their product, for decades, until everybody forgot that's a kind of software you can make.

[-] bumpusoot@hexbear.net 14 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I've been hating Adobe since I was a child, before it was cool.

..Nah, who am I kidding, Adobe has pretty much always been hateworthy. They really pioneered some of the most awful modern day payment and DRM models.

[-] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 12 points 15 hours ago

I would probably buy PS, but I will not subscribe to it. Gimp does what I need on the rare occasions I need to do something.

Acrobat is just dumb. I don't see any benefit to it over free/cheaper alternatives.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 40 points 20 hours ago

Due to union rules i am actually not allowed to hate Adobe more than I currently do sorry.

[-] Lussy@hexbear.net 21 points 20 hours ago

This company is literally just taking the piss and you’re allowing it to happen?

‘Please subscribe to our Premium experience to access this ugly ass font’

What the fuck

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 33 points 20 hours ago

I'm just making a "union rules" joke. I use gimp, inkscape, and a bunch of other stuff. I despise adobe.

[-] Lussy@hexbear.net 12 points 20 hours ago

Is there an open source alternative to acrobat? That’s all I fucking need.

[-] velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml 17 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Just the reader? Evince, Okular, Sumatra, PDF.js (basically, open PDF on Firefox with the file://<path>).

Or the editor? Eh, don't even try to edit PDF - they weren't meant for that, to begin with. But if you're still persistent, then you can either use Xournal++, or convert PDF to SVG with Inkscape.

[-] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 11 points 18 hours ago

don't even try to edit PDF - they weren't meant for that

Screaming this from the rooftops

[-] buckykat@hexbear.net 8 points 18 hours ago

The PDF is fundamentally a weird skeumorphic anachronism which should not exist

PDFs are great for certain legal documents and files that never need to be changed. It's the digital equivalent of laminated or glossy paper.

[-] buckykat@hexbear.net 6 points 15 hours ago

Stop doing PDF

  • Documents were not meant to be in the computer

  • Years of PDF yet no real world use found for digital paper

  • Wanted to make a document in the computer anyway for a laugh? We have a tool for that it's called an ODT

  • "Yes, please give me a signature with your mouse, please give me a document I can't edit" Statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged

[-] rtstragedy@hexbear.net 6 points 18 hours ago

This, I hate PDF forms so so much.

[-] Are_Euclidding_Me@hexbear.net 10 points 20 hours ago

Yes, absolutely. I use Okular when I need to fuck with pdfs. It's quite decent in my experience. Great pdf reader and allows you to annotate, sign, fill forms, everything I've ever had to do with a pdf, really.

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[-] LeninsBeard@hexbear.net 11 points 18 hours ago

Your white hot ball of rage has been burning other employees recently Frank, we need you to settle down.

[-] tamagotchicowboy@hexbear.net 26 points 19 hours ago

When I was in college and we got student license edition I always preferred to use pirate-jammin on principal alone...and it somehow performed better than the licensed edition.

[-] Lussy@hexbear.net 12 points 18 hours ago

Ealways, it’s always like this. I almost expect customer support to better for pirated copies

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 19 points 18 hours ago

I will literally never use Adobe software. My wife pirated some but I do not bother using it.

[-] rtstragedy@hexbear.net 16 points 18 hours ago

this tbh, I will put up with a lot of jank to escape subscription fees, especially predatory "monthly" (yearly) fees

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 9 points 17 hours ago

To be real I don't think the GNU Image Manipulator even has that bad a UI. Like yes it's convoluted but A) that's literally Adobe's fault B) you need a wiki for both anyway

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 6 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Any day now Adobe will probably cram some (more?) "AI" shit into their racket too.

[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 9 points 12 hours ago

yeah they're already doin that

[-] LGOrcStreetSamurai@hexbear.net 17 points 19 hours ago

It's crazy to me that Adobe has managed to to make any money. Their software products at their core are pretty solid, however all of their products are covered in barbed wire and throned vines. The idea that basic features require a subscription is beyond bonkers to me. I don't know how they managed to survive the 90s at all.

I hate Adobe, all my homies hate Adobe, and it's deeply frustrating there has been a meaningful alterative yet.

[-] pemptago@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago

They survived the 90's because they weren't subscription-based back then. They could charge a lot more, but they had to actually invest in development so that clients would be willing to pay for an upgrade. Once development started stagnating, and they had an enormous market share, they could switch over to the subscription model and start charging people to access the software (and their files) in perpetuity.

[-] pemptago@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago

the affinity suite is a good alternative if you're not on linux, not that adobe supports linux last i checked. There's also https://www.photopea.com/ Really depends on the use case, plenty of better painting options out there now. For photo editing, a dedicated raw editor can cover a lot of territory. For compositing heavy stuff, I use gimp or even blender. inkscape is awesome for vector work.

i could go on. i think a lot of people forget how difficult it was to learn adobe software when they started, and it's tough to switch and lose that muscle memory, but even if the alternatives aren't as good, most have been improving over the years and adobe has just gotten worse and worse. Redirecting money from adobe to alternatives will accelerate that.

It's also much easier to write scripts for adobe alternatives, so it's possible to get productivity boosts in that domain, depending on how you work.

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 16 points 19 hours ago

businesses buy the licenses for their employees

[-] Smeagolicious@hexbear.net 7 points 16 hours ago

Despite the huge market share PS is so much worse & less convenient than my usual digital art program, Clip Studio. What do you mean you can't non-destructively mirror a canvas in PS?!?

[-] Alisu@hexbear.net 3 points 11 hours ago

Ps is better for photos. Drawing on Ps is bad compared to free alternatives, like Krita, I love Krita

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 12 points 18 hours ago

As someone trying to become more creative. By God do I hate Adobe. They’re greedy pigs and proud of it.

I also hate it for what it represents, they’re industry standard so if you want to follow your dreams and become a creative. Guess what? You have one of many paywalls in your way to stop you. There is nothing porky wants more than for all arts to be luxury hobbies for only the rich.

[-] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 11 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

At least Photoshop CS6 is easy as shit to pirate

[-] erik@hexbear.net 12 points 19 hours ago

Say what you will about Apple, I gave them a couple hundred bucks almost fourteen years ago and I can just use their video editing suite as much as I want and they give me every updates on the reg.

[-] git@hexbear.net 12 points 16 hours ago

You can also pirate their pro software by walking into an Apple store and copying the app from /Applications onto a thumb drive. No DRM or copy protection whatsoever.

[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 4 points 12 hours ago

that's what I call a pro-tip

[-] NewDark@hexbear.net 17 points 20 hours ago

I think it's because they aren't quite as ubiquitous. Most the people heavily involved with Adobe products do so for creative work, and that's a relatively small niche comparatively.

[-] Lussy@hexbear.net 20 points 20 hours ago

They literally own pdfs, which have some how become necessary in every business and government administration.

[-] NewDark@hexbear.net 6 points 17 hours ago

Sure, that's about the extent of the everyday use case, a shitty file format. Im not talking about search, email, calendar, operating systems, and all kinds of other things you will regularly touch on the internet.

In not saying Adobe isn't prominent, just comparatively a lot smaller.

[-] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 9 points 19 hours ago

I had to switch to a different PDF reader because for the life of me I couldn't get the dumb little AI assistant to quit covering the corner.

[-] bumpusoot@hexbear.net 6 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Firefox has honestly been a better PDF reader than the inventors of the PDF for about a decade now.

Adobe PDF reader is the peak of bloatware and really shouldn't be installed anywhere anymore. Last I saw, it was like 400MB of software to read-only open a file type? Could be gigs if they have AI shit in it now too.

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 8 points 17 hours ago

the dumb little AI assistant

Somewhere in hell Clippy is laughing.

[-] 12022081631@hexbear.net 8 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

e: i changed my mind i love adobeeeeee

[-] bortsampson@hexbear.net 5 points 18 hours ago

AE is unparalled. Everything else they make has more extensible open source alternatives.

[-] Lussy@hexbear.net 4 points 17 hours ago
[-] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 5 points 17 hours ago

after effects

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