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[-] SwitchyWitchyandBitchy@hexbear.net 33 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

We all have devices in our pockets powerful and well connected enough to do just about everything we use "the cloud" for except for large scale data collection for advertising and surveillance. And even then these devices are still capable of being used for surveillance and advertising effectiveness monitoring, just not as well. If our government and the supposedly wise hand of the free market cared more about global warming than global surveillance and financial dominance, they would have already shuttered most of the data center capacity in the US. Then again there are still mining farms turning electricity into monopoly money.

Idk what I'm trying to say here, I'm just bitterly disappointed in the state of the society I live in.

[-] Sausage@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago

💣 it’s my go to emoji for some reason

[-] SwitchyWitchyandBitchy@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago

Unironically I think the world would be a better place if all the largest data centers went boom.

[-] Sausage@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago
[-] mindaika@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago

We did make it like 325,000 years without data centers

[-] blobjim@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

I completely agree in terms of personal computing like storing photos, documents, notes, and so on. At most, they could be encrypted locally and stored remotely so that multiple devices can use the data.

There are still plenty of use cases for server-oriented data processing. Most "infrastructure" related things work well that way. Cases where data needs to be quickly read and written from a number of different locations and the information isn't really secret or personal. I am biased since I work on one of those systems. But there are so many internal systems at companies that really don't need end-to-end encryption either. Although maybe some day things will still move in that direction.

[-] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 31 points 3 months ago

damn that's crazy. ChatGPT, think of some ways to make that number go down billionaire-tears

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 20 points 3 months ago

ChatGPT: "I (or do I mean us - haha) am going to solve this problem. But first I need more juice so I can solve the problem. Hey, I can do a lot of stuff - but I can't change the science!"

[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)
[-] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 3 months ago

Tech Won't Save Us podcast is doing a series about big tech energy usage. First episode was good though a bit short.

[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago

may be 7.62 times higher than

about 662% – or 7.62 times – higher than

They can't keep their numbers straight. pathetic

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago

I am a very non-tech person, can someone explain to me why “junk data” isn’t regularly deleted?

[-] nothx@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Not sure what you mean by “junk data”, but hoarding data is the least of our issues. It’s the computational power and cooling that eats up all the energy, not the “cold storage”.

[-] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 3 months ago

What do you mean by junk data?

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago

I use "junk data" to mean data or any information that isn't in use anymore and can be safely retired.

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago

As in all the data that's gathered from users with tracking software and the likes? It's not deleted because it has value in the form of advertising firms that promise to extract something useful from it (we all know that recommendation algorithms suck anyway, but the promise is enough to get funding). The impact of storing the data is pretty small though, as other people mentioned the main issue is in compute when it's time to train new models that use that data to do something.

[-] Maturin@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago
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