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submitted 18 hours ago by lousyd@lemmy.sdf.org to c/news@lemmy.world

I am not a teen.

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[-] pineapple_pizza@lemmy.dexlit.xyz 2 points 28 minutes ago

I remember watching the wolf of wall street on opening day with my parents when I was a teen.

Based on that experience, I agree, that was so awkward lol

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 5 points 1 hour ago

I can understand that now that we have access to easy-direct--instant-proper porn that sex scenes are less appealing to the majority of people.

When I was a kid they would definitely include a sex scene just so that people looking to jerk off would be willing to watch or buy.

[-] lousyd@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 23 minutes ago

Yeah but, sex scenes in movies and sex in porn are hardly even the same thing. They're so wildly different, I don't see how one could be a replacement for the other.

[-] nomous@lemmy.world 1 points 13 minutes ago

Growing up my friend had a special VHS tape he'd rent movies and record the sex scenes to. He was pretty sheltered and just didn't have access to much else.

[-] acetanilide@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

I've been saying this for so long. Don't get me wrong, some films do make sense to have sex scenes. But there are so many that either have hardcore (for TV) sex scenes or just random full nudity that makes it nearly impossible to watch with anyone other than my partner or close friends.

Like if I recommend a film or show to someone and completely forget that it had sex or even just nudity in it, it usually wasn't important to the story. On the other hand, it may have made sense to include in the film but it was so terribly done that I promptly blocked it out.

The other issue is that it has become increasingly difficult to find any shows that either don't include sex scenes, or don't have ridiculous levels of violence, or whatever else is difficult for me to deal with when I just want something easy to watch that's not a kid's movie (although kid's movies have their own set of issues).

Streaming services don't even make it easy to find something to watch - they show you the same stuff over and over, or they pretend that everything is in English when they include so many other languages in the selections. If I am unable to pay attention to the captions then I would prefer to have something in English without trying a bunch of different shows first. I mean I guess this is partly (mainly?) my fault since I've failed to learn another language despite years of studying. But I think it just irritates me that they lie about it more than anything.

Idk I am off topic now and this has turned into a really long comment that probably doesn't say anything that hasn't already been said in this thread.

[-] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 2 points 38 minutes ago

Maybe find less prudish friends? There's nothing wrong with bodies.

[-] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 hours ago

Pandering to teenagers is how you end up with plotlines wrapping up like oh thankfully Wesley found a solution in the last five minutes

Teenagers should be touching grass, or hucking loogies at cars, go outside and dig a hole or something, log off

[-] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

They have to hook and tag them early or they can't cash in on the nostalgia later.

[-] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

So I've noticed that there are a lot of streaming movies and TV shows that match a lot of these patterns:

  • IP is announced. Adaptation of extremely popular series with existing fanbase
  • IP is billed as "adult" with "mature themes"
  • Producer/Director goes on a podcast and compares IP to "Game of Thrones" a few weeks before release. Said comparison treats GoT as an ideal to aspire to instead of a cautionary tale.
  • Producer/Director also insults existing fanbase for some reason
  • IP is previewed to critics, gets amazing reviews
  • IP comes out, and gets high streaming numbers day one
  • Writing ends up being terrible
  • Plot ends up being surface level, with all the subtly of the original adaptation cut out. This somehow is true now matter how basic the source material may seem
  • Acting is terrible. There is at least one race swapped character, who they also butcher from a writing perspective
  • VFX is terrible, and expensive scenes are cut out
  • Costumes are terrible to the point where everything looks like shitty cosplay
  • There's a few violent scenes that are extremely gratuitous. VFX and writing are so bad that it's comical instead of jarring
  • There are a few random sex scenes thrown in. The sex scenes detract from the pacing of the story, and are blatantly thrown in so producers can brag about them
  • Sex scenes tend to focus on the female form. If men are involved, they all are hairless and look like boy band members
  • If it is a gay sex scene, it blatantly written by women and for women with an extremely limited knowledge of men as a whole
  • In a few days, the Internet erupts with needlessly vitriolic discourse about said IP.
  • A year post release, the show is essentially forgotten.

In that context it's no surprise younger people don't like sex scenes. It's basically a canary for a low quality show and extreme toxicity.

[-] lousyd@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 hours ago

Are you taking about Uglies? I feel like you described Uglies. I liked the adaptation, but a lot of critics didn't.

[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

If I want to watch sex in a movie, I’ll watch a porno in my basement sex dungeon. If I want to watch something with family and friends without that weird awkward moment when SEX starts happening, I’ll watch a movie without a pointless sex scene in it.

[-] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

I'm just glad you didn't call it a "playroom".

[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I also like to think of it as my Fappy Funtime Playroom

[-] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 17 points 4 hours ago

The number of sex scenes are down since 2000 of the movies coming out of Hollywood. But if you're willing to read subtitles, there's still a lot of horny videos coming out of Western Europe.

For me, make the sex relevant to the plot and make the sex they have congruent with the characters.

[-] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 15 points 4 hours ago

I have noticed over the years sex scenes usually add no value to the movie. If the sex scene was removed completely it wouldn’t change the story at all.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, while I do enjoy seeing occasional boobs (which most of the time aren't even showed), if I want to watch sex, I'll just put on some porn.

IMO, The Room is one of the few movies where the sex scenes added anything. And even then, they didn't add anything to the plot, they added to the meta plot, which was the story of a guy with a passionate vision but lacking the talent to pull off that vision, which IMO Wiseau does have talent doing, since he's been able to recreate that same feeling in other content, making me think he's playing a character (Tommy Wiseau the producer) he wants the audience to laugh at.

[-] irotsoma@lemmy.world 58 points 7 hours ago

It's the stupid toxic "romance" that I want rid of. It gets so boring and tedious to watch. If it's important to the story, then fine. But otherwise can we just normalize friendship between opposite gendered people without the need for bad relationship drama, jealousy, and normalizing the idea that when someone says no, they're actually just "playing hard to get".

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 23 points 6 hours ago

can we just normalize friendship between opposite gendered people

Great idea. I would love a prominent TV show to have main characters of the opposite sex that are good friends and a romance is never shoehorned into it at any point.

Warehouse 13 got sooooo close.

[-] CrabLord@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

If you haven't seen it. Ted Lasso is a great one for this.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

I've had that show recommended to me before and I keep avoiding it because the subject matter doesn't interest me, but I keep being told to watch it despite that, so it is on my long list.

[-] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I'm not sure what you think the subject matter is, but I was completely caught off guard. The main character is ostensibly in a "fish out of water" story, and that certainly creates a humorous backdrop. But the show is really all about mental health and wellbeing. People supporting each other while they learn to love themselves, deal with anxiety, trauma, and prejudice... It's immensely beautiful, uproariously funny, and I will happily be the next person to recommend you watch it.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

It's the sports part that held absolutely no interest to me because I think sports are really, really boring. But I'm told I'll like it anyway, and you seem to back that up.

[-] marquisalex@feddit.uk 2 points 3 hours ago

There are plenty of shows "about" subjects that you really don't need to have any interest in to enjoy, because the show is actually about the characters. Like Succession, is any knowledge about or passion for corporate takeovers necessary? In Ted Lasso, the sport is there to motivate the characters, and is only very occasionally on screen.

[-] Deway@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago

Stargate SG1 did it as well or evem better than WH13 in my opinion. Sure Jack and Sam have some sort of romance but Teal'C, Sam, and Daniel are great friends. Atlantis did it even better with Ronon and Teyla.

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[-] CluelessLemmyng@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 6 hours ago

Twilight really fucked up the romance genre, huh? Lol

[-] mindaika@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 hours ago

“Social media is the most authentic?”

GenZ is fucked. Although not literally

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 5 hours ago

It makes sense. Sex scenes were interesting when we didn't have on-hand porn streaming because it was something you didn't see often. Nudity and sex are now so readily available that they aren't exciting. As someone else said, just infer it.

[-] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 hour ago

It doesn't make sense.

Is it more interesting to see your girlfriend or boyfriend naked or in a sensual situation or porn? How about just someone you know?

Extending this logic, it is more interesting to see someone you know in se(x/n)ual scenes from an acting perspective. Meaning, while it's may not help the plot of every movie, I would say having these elements added by your favorite actor gives some pupil dilating special sauce that horny longdong and bouncy jangletits hardcore adventure does not provide.

[-] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 hours ago

Just have the screen go black at a sex scene.

“Pause here, go watch your favourite porn vid and come back. That’s what just happened.”

A choose your own adventure!

[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

More confirmation the world is right to see us as backwards. (US study)

So many sexual hangups. Makes sense considering we were founded by Puritans escaping to the new world to be more backwards and repressed.

Sex is a part of life. A massive part of the human condition. A part to be celebrated, not mourned or minimized. That's how we get pedophile priests and sexual education summed up in "do not do it because it does not exist and you're dirty for asking." It's not Gen Zs fault though, social media is designed to emphasize the darkest possible side of everything as it gets clicks, so sex as a concept is just a vector of potential trauma to them.

If only we had the same hangups about our violence boners our media gluts us on with abandon. Sports concussions, gory explosion movies, and our most celebrated exports tools of mass murder 😎👍. People giving one another physical pleasure 😱👎.

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