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[-] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 53 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I think the real game changer here is the USB-PD. I now only bring a single charger for both my laptop and my phone. Also, a lot of different laptops now charge with USB-C, getting rid of the need of different plugs.

Props to the Thinkpad USB-C retrofit hack. Granted they only work with 65w, but it is still great! My Anker Nano GaN charger is only a little bit larger than an ice cube, definitely smaller than most traditional USB charger, yet it packs 65w.

[-] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I have that GaN brick it’s fantastic and makes the original Thinkpad one look huge.

[-] iii@mander.xyz 6 points 4 days ago

What does GaN stand for in that context?

[-] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 days ago

Galium Nitride. It makes high current DC stuff more efficient (i.e. generates less heat) and requires less circuitry (i.e. smaller devices).

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[-] Amputret@lemmy.dbzer0.com 60 points 4 days ago

Compared to USB-A, not really that much of a game changer (it’s still the most common for me). Though I do not miss the three rotations to get it in.

Compared to Micro-USB? Holy fuck, I almost refuse to buy anything still using Micro-USB ported now. Mainly because I can’t never find the fucking cable for it.

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[-] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

A big one. No more brittle micro usb, which would eventually become loose and start falling out when charging. Being able to charge my laptop using my phone charger is also good.

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

That's impressive, how many watts is your phone charger? I would have assumed you could do the opposite but thought the laptop would have laughed when you attached a small stream to it.

[-] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I use an old phone charger, when working outside my home. My goal when using it is to keep the charge/uncharge ratio positive. Tho when at home my devices share a 100W charger.

[-] RagnarokOnline@programming.dev 42 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Fucking awesome, it is. When I travel, I take 1 laptop power cord. Charges my phone, laptop, Switch, and backup battery. (The backup battery’s output ports are USB-A, but it’s got a lil converter cable that stays in the lil bag that the backup battery is stored in.)

[-] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 11 points 4 days ago

It's the best. So much so that not having usb c, has become a deciding factor if i buy something or not. It also seems a bit of a quality insurance, even if it's just a little. But electronics with micro or even mini usb is usually just some cheap shit or that old and they are still selling it.

Really hasn't been much of one. I still own devices that charge from MicroUSB, a lot of peripherals are still USB-A, there hasn't been any significant movement by the industry overall to move everything to C, so mostly it means I just need to carry more cables.

[-] kreiger@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Nitpick, there are no devices that charge with an USB-A port. USB-A is the side that supplies power, the side receiving power is USB-B.

USB-C did away with the distinction.

True, but keyboards, mice, wireless adapters etc. haven't moved to C yet. I use PCs and desktop peripherals and industry adoption if USBC has basically stopped 1/4 of the way in.

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[-] Defectus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

It's pretty convenient. Now I can take my soldering iron and my power tool battery (with SN USB-C adaptor) and solder wherever the fuck I want

[-] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Usbc-pd is an absolute game changer as an off grid person. The fact a 100w charger can act as a dc to dc converter with up to five output voltages, at up to 100 watts is crazy. And that the protocol automatically detects and communicates the proper voltage is very convinent. The problem is that usbc-pd 100w chargers are expensive and you need to know what you are doing if you want to diy power appliances with it.

Its really nice to have a standardized cable that just works and can be plugged in both ways. We really are approaching a Universaal Cable after a quarter century of RnD.

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[-] COASTER1921@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago

With a laptop and phone which both can use it my backpack while travelling is so much lighter and less bulky. For me it absolutely was a game changer, I just don't like that I need to carry a USB a to C adapter for all the legacy USB A ports.

[-] lnxtx@feddit.nl 22 points 4 days ago

So far it's a mess.

I still have Micro USB devices, so I need two cables or USB-C→Micro USB adapter.

I have PCs without USB-C ports, so another adapter needed USB-C → USB-A.

But, I can now "dock" my new-ish laptop with only one USB-C ↔ USB-C cable to a monitor.
Monitor gives power.

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[-] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 days ago

Works great, rarely have issues with the port breaking unlike prior small usb standards, it's nice how ubiquitous it is so I have way less random cable connectors around.

[-] Steve@startrek.website 17 points 4 days ago

Not at all, its slightly more convenient.

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

If all cables were created equal then it's kind of a big deal that laptops can now charge via USB-C. Proprietary chargers can suck my ass.

[-] umbraroze@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I don't think I've had a single USB-C cable/connector/socket fail yet. Which can't be said of Micro-USB.

But other than that, meh.

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[-] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 days ago

It’s been more of a pain in the arse than initially expected.

Most motherboards (for example) only have 2-4 USB-C ports, meaning that I still need to employ A-C and C-C cables for peripherals etc.

My main gripe is that the standard just tries to do too many things without clear delineation/markings:

  1. Is it a USB 2.0 (480Mbit), 5Gbit, 10Gbit or 20Gbit cable? Can’t really tell from the plug alone.

  2. More importantly, for charging devices: How the heck do I determine maximum wattage I can run?

For all its faults, at least the blue colour of a USB-3.0 plug (or additional connectors for B/Micro) made it easy to differentiate !

Now I’m eyeing up a USB Cable tester just to validate and catalogue my growing collection! 🤦🏻‍♂️

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[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 days ago

For charging, it's fine, I have equipment to do some mid level testing of how much power a USB cable can transmit, I can also verify if a charger supports quick charge and other charging protocols.

For data transfer, it's frustrating, you gotta find the cables that are not just USB2 with a USB-C connector.

Then you have thunderbolt, which is even more expensive....

[-] iii@mander.xyz 10 points 4 days ago

So much harder to solder, making repairing my stuff more difficult :(

Also, a USB cable is no longer a USB cable. Now I have to guess what the rated wattage was, if it's power only/data only/mixed.

All in all, a step back in my opinion.

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[-] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 3 days ago

Not as much as going from coax to RJ45, or from PATA to SATA, or from PC/AT to PS/2 to USB or Bluetooth, or from D-SUB to DVI to HDMI or Display port, or from the old serial and parallel ports to USB or Bluetooth (I mainly skipped SCSI), and I sort of miss having to turn the connector 360° around for it to fit...

[-] loutr@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago

I went through all of these, and honestly plugging in a single cable into your laptop and having power, external display, network and input peripherals all connect instantly is pretty damn cool.

[-] superkret@feddit.org 8 points 4 days ago

I was pretty fucking disappointed how flimsy the jacks are.
I've had 3 phones and a laptop I had to replace because the USB-C jack started to wiggle and wouldn't connect anymore.

[-] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Is it the jack itself that’s wiggling, or the plug won’t stay in the socket and wiggles too much?

If it’s the latter, take a staple and bend it straight, and VERY GENTLY drag it round inside the port, avoiding contacts, scraping out the lint and dust that has almost certainly become impacted at the base of it over time. I do this whenever cables don’t want to stay in anymore and it’s amazing how much of a difference it makes.

I have had one example of the port itself becoming loose, but mostly I’ve run into the lint/dust problem.

[-] Defectus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

The lint problem! The first time when my phone started acting up when charging I thought it was the USB jack that have worn out. Then I tried cleaning it with a needle. Still can't believe how much lint can fit in a USB-C socket.

[-] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Right? It’s wild how much comes out!

[-] wootey@feddit.org 6 points 4 days ago

Probably better to use a toothpick in that case.

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[-] BigBenis@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

USB-C has changed the entire game. It's a completely different game now. It's like Yahtzee vs Uno. Or like Call of Duty vs Microsoft Flight Simulator. Remember playing freeze tag or dodgeball? Well it's not like that anymore. Now it's like playing soccer.

[-] jadedwench@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Like others, USB-PD is amazing. My monitor has 90W which is plenty for my laptops. Gaming laptop, not so much. The only device I have that isn't USBC/Thunderbolt is the damn mouse. I rarely ever need a USB A port for anything other than charging. Even my flash drives are all USBC.

I have been able to use 1 charger for almost everything for several years now. Sometimes I have a finicky device that doesn't like the high wattage PD chargers and will only trickle charge, but work fine with my other smaller charger. The GaN chargers are nice and compact. I break USBC cables a lot less often, but that is because I am a walking disaster most of the time. I would break micro USB cables constantly, or rip the ports to pieces.

One note though on USBC ports on a monitor. Beware using the really really stiff cables on ports that are positioned where the cable would be parallel to the table instead of the port pointing down. That port will definitely wear out or break entirely from the constant downward force and lack of support of the cable in the port. This is especially true if you use a monitor arm and the cable gets moved. Seen this on both Samsung and LG. My Dell points downward. I really like the pro PS5 controllers as it comes with a little cage that holds the USBC cable in place and protects the port from exactly that scenario. These monitors absolutely need something like that, especially with how expensive they are.

I like its reversibility and faster speeds compared to MicroUSB. Being in the USA where everyone has iPhones though, it was hard to bum chargers from other people (before the iPhone 15 anyway)

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[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

To me it mostly just meant having to buy more cables. The old ritual of trying a USB connector one way, then the other way, then retrying the first way never took all that long and was actually kind of amusing. And I still use the old cables because I haven't thrown away my old devices that still need them. I only have a few new things that need type C.

[-] blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk 2 points 3 days ago

Game changer? Literally not at all. It's a bit better.

[-] spacemanspiffy@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

Its convenient and superior to Micro. But mostly its just nice that both mine ans my wife's phone uses the same cord.

[-] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

It was great!

I could get rid of a lot of "extra" cords. I can just keep one usb c and charge my phone, my mouse, and headphones with one cord. Shoot, I can even charge my controllers now too. I like that they're becoming like outlets. Like, this is just how you get power to the device(S). Without searching for the "right" cord all the time.

[-] dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de 9 points 4 days ago

Last week I found out that there are off-brand batteries for my DSLR cameras that can be charged directly through USB-C so I don't have to pack a different charger for every camera. Let that sink in!

Overall pretty great, in a pinch I can charge my laptop on a Nintendo Switch power supply. Now if I could just upgrade the last few remaining Micro-USB and Lightning devices without spending a fortune...

[-] Skyline969@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

Now that I upgraded to an iPhone with USB-C, I enjoy the convenience of having one cable for everything. Charging, connecting a display temporarily, data transfer, one cable. Never had a Mac so I didn’t get in on the Lightning to Lightning shenanigans, but I do prefer Lightning over USB-C. At least a Lightning port is easy to clean.

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

It's nice that my phone charges quickly, but otherwise I don't notice. It's just one more cable type I need to search for.

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[-] veniasilente@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago

It changed my economy game.

Now I have to buy an USB-C to USB-A adaptor to plug USB-C stuff into my already standing devices. Honestly, no idea why didn't they make it connector-compatible. Wasn't that the entire point of the "U" in "USB"?

[-] Toes@ani.social 7 points 4 days ago

They really wanted to put an end to this meme.

But manufacturers wanted a micro usb replacement and this is what we got.

[-] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

They did make USB-A cables that had a universal (up and down) connector near the end. Got one with my JBL Flip. There is a middle piece that moves to one side or the other depending on how you plug it in.

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[-] That_Devil_Girl@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 days ago

Personally, I like the iPhone charging port better as there's less that can go wrong with it, but USB-C is pretty good too.

I like that I don't have to orient the cable plug-ins just right. I can flip it over and still plug it in just fine. That's why I don't like mini USB, micro USB, or USB-A

[-] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Yeah Lightning was really nice. I was surprised how much I liked it after switching from Android to iOS. If only it weren’t proprietary and had too few pins to be very useful outside of charging.

I still hated that my phone didn’t use USB-C though, since everything else I own does. Glad the new iPhones do.

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