You have convinced me, reddit user LeResist, from now on I will be perfectly selfless by swearing loyalty to the largest ethnic group, the Han Chinese

Like how do they not see that argument can and will be applied to them by every other cracker with a pulse, that's the whole point of solidarity, to do away with zero-sum mentalities like that

"And the reality is America is a country with 331 million people. There's over 221 million white people in America. It's pretty selfish to choose black people over us" It's so easy to weaponize this shit

Fanon's Black Skin, White Masks delves into this.

Colonized people can come to identify with the colonizer as a way to cope with colonization. This hollows them out inside and makes them turn that racism inward onto themselves, but they can be rewarded with an elevated social status by the colonizer.

Didn't vote for my favorite color? Hope you die in the camps 🥰♥️

Getting some seriously bad vibes from this whole thing. It’s like they’ve found some way to inoculate people against even the barest sort of solidarity- I fear the coalition politics that won even the handful of concessions we got like obergefell might be dead. Granted, that’s exactly what i thought last time this happened too.

Someone’s trying to drive wedges, and it’s working. Divide and conquer by playing up (or creating) animus against one another. Clear as day yet people are walking right into it. What changed?

The revisionism on January 6th is still wild to see,

January 6th didn't succeed because it was done by a bunch of losers without a single coherent idea on why they were doing it and what to do after doing it,

I believe a majority of the rioters were just moved by the energy of the mob around them and they weren't about to 'end democracy' or whatever, it's pretty tiring seeing it compared to the Beer Hall putsch

I just learned these screenshots came from BlackPeopleTwitter

In which case every single comment was made by a white person and 95% of the upvotes were from white people, folks don't remember but back in 2018-19 BPT was outed as one of the most astroturfed and demographically deceptive subs on the website, it is without a doubt the largest digital blackface forum on the internet, aside from maybe r/hiphopheads

The leaked polls back in 2019 revealed the sub is 90% white

"You don't get it, I have to support or be tacitly complicit in genocide, otherwise I'll be genocided" is a truly stellar argument. There's even a poem about it:

First they came for the communists, and I didn't say anything because I voted strategically for Hitler
Then nothing happened and that was that.

One of the funniest things to me is that my position towards libs in real life was:

I am an immigrant, who came here via asylum. I will not vote for anyone who prevents people from seeking asylum. The Biden administration has effectively destroyed asylum in the US, that is illegal under international law. Kamala Harris is campaigning on the Biden border policy.

Nobody could actually fucking answer to that. It was glorious to watch the cogs turn, because I knew in the back of their mind was the racist thought of throwing me out of the country because I'm "disloyal" or "ungreatful". They just could not say that out loud in polite company.

How dare those ideological leftists put the genocide of Palestinians over the emancipatory policy of protecting black men’s crypto investments?

I hope Trump drives this country into the ground.

If it isn't gender wars calling black men bullet bags or black women getting compared to vile things, or diaspora wars, its this bullshit. Seems like the only unity is found in shitting on other groups. Social media is a fucking mistake

Jan 6th did not succeed ... because Mike pence and the secretaries of states of PA and GA stopped it

And how the fuck is this an argument for linking up with Liz cheney exactly? Did Liz Cheney stop Jan 6th?

Settlers applies to POC as much as it does white people.

Eyo? It really does not.

Making sweeping proclamations about black americans being genocide apologists and settlersoff a couple reddit comments is just as insane as libs attacking latinos or other minorities for trump.

Pretty sure the vast majority of black americans support palestine, more than any other demographic. But u/LeResist decided to make an opinion on behalf of all black americans so we have to jump the debate bro logic like excited dogs.

Liberals are a combination of stupid and condescending that just infuriates me

This is what happens when your entire country is built on the promise that stepping on other people's heads can make you taller

Kamala: throws black people in jail disproportionately

Libs: She's black tho, so it's okay

Being against genocide is really showing a lack of empathy if you think about it

Successive waves of immigration also played a role in reinforcing American ideology. The immigrants were certainly not responsible for the poverty and oppression that lay behind their departure for the United States. But their emigration led them to give up collective struggle to change the shared conditions of their classes or groups in their native countries, and adopt instead the ideology of individual success in their adopted home. Adopting such an ideology delayed the acquisition of class consciousness. Once it began to mature, this developing consciousness had to face a new wave of immigrants, resulting in renewed failure to achieve the requisite political consciousness. Simultaneously, this immigration encouraged the “communitarianization” of U.S. society. “Individual success” does not exclude inclusion in a community of origin, without which individual isolation might become insupportable. The reinforcement of this dimension of identity—which the U.S. system reclaims and encourages—is done to the detriment of class consciousness and the forming of citizens. Communitarian ideologies cannot be a substitute for the absence of a socialist ideology in the working class. This is true even of the most radical of them, that of the black community.

• Samir Amin, Revolution from North to South

The full piece is well worth a read, and not too long.

Im half convinced bpt is completely astroturfed by the dnc

don't forget sexist too; my ex-maga father called me after the debate to complain about her being so "angry" and "aggressive" citing arguments that wouldn't have blinked an eye if kamala were a man.

i think, in the end, it's important to recognize that we all have internalized bigotry in one form or another and that it's our jobs as adults to keep de-weeding our mental gardens and accept that most people will never tend to their own gardens and that they're an overwhelming majority with the political power to force things upon everyone.

It's depressing the hell out of me that the attitude "We told the people that they need to support our candidate in spite of the clear and obvious harm that our candidate pledged to perpetuate" followed by losing the election is not leading to "Wow our lack of compassion bit us in the ass and maybe we shouldn't be so quick to sell our souls next time."

The thing these people need rubbing on their faces is that they endorsed genocide, a hard right immigration policy, zero commitment on reproductive rights AND STILL LOST. You fucking sold your soul for nothing, you fucking losers. All you achieved was adding your voices to the chorus of "more racist violence, please".

I honestly think most people would highly benefit from reading A Workbook for Arguments: A Complete Course in Critical Thinking

The amount of cognitive dissonance and logical fallacy among these chains of reasoning and “arguments” (and I am using the word argument very generously here) is astounding.