Everyday I find another reason to smile at her downfall. Settlers applies to POC as much as it does white people. (Some) Black Americans really think genocide isn't something to withhold a vote over.
This in addition to the "how do I report my neighbor for being an illegal immigrant/ I want to report a lady I know for getting an abortion" posts on reddit really shows the reality of blue MAGA.
You have convinced me, reddit user LeResist, from now on I will be perfectly selfless by swearing loyalty to the largest ethnic group, the Han Chinese
Calling pro Palestine supporters "selfish" in the next sentence after saying all that is what's driving the aneurysm meter up.
Like how do they not see that argument can and will be applied to them by every other cracker with a pulse, that's the whole point of solidarity, to do away with zero-sum mentalities like that
"And the reality is America is a country with 331 million people. There's over 221 million white people in America. It's pretty selfish to choose black people over us" It's so easy to weaponize this shit
"There are 80 million Germans in our glorious Fatherland. There are only 16 million Jews. It's actually pretty selfish to choose the Jews over ourselves."
And she didn't even win the popular vote
They don't really believe it, they just say it because it's convenient. If someone turned it on them like you describe, they'd (correctly) call it racist, because that would then be the convenient thing to say.
I just learned these screenshots came from BlackPeopleTwitter
In which case every single comment was made by a white person and 95% of the upvotes were from white people, folks don't remember but back in 2018-19 BPT was outed as one of the most astroturfed and demographically deceptive subs on the website, it is without a doubt the largest digital blackface forum on the internet, aside from maybe r/hiphopheads
The leaked polls back in 2019 revealed the sub is 90% white
One of the funniest things to me is that my position towards libs in real life was:
I am an immigrant, who came here via asylum. I will not vote for anyone who prevents people from seeking asylum. The Biden administration has effectively destroyed asylum in the US, that is illegal under international law. Kamala Harris is campaigning on the Biden border policy.
Nobody could actually fucking answer to that. It was glorious to watch the cogs turn, because I knew in the back of their mind was the racist thought of throwing me out of the country because I'm "disloyal" or "ungreatful". They just could not say that out loud in polite company.
Soon they won't care, they're already justifying their racism by saying that Latinos and Arabs "voted" for it, so they shouldn't complain.
The revisionism on January 6th is still wild to see,
January 6th didn't succeed because it was done by a bunch of losers without a single coherent idea on why they were doing it and what to do after doing it,
I believe a majority of the rioters were just moved by the energy of the mob around them and they weren't about to 'end democracy' or whatever, it's pretty tiring seeing it compared to the Beer Hall putsch
Yeah, the mythologizing of the January 6th riot is wild. If they were successful they would've, what? Held the capitol building for a few days while the police and military argue about who gets to kill them? At worst, if they somehow indefinitely held the building, congress would have to book a convention center to work from.
the world is just like Risk and once the capitol building falls it goes to the people inside. The generals are just dice and have no ability to resist this.
Fanon's Black Skin, White Masks delves into this.
Colonized people can come to identify with the colonizer as a way to cope with colonization. This hollows them out inside and makes them turn that racism inward onto themselves, but they can be rewarded with an elevated social status by the colonizer.
That sounds like a form of the Cultural Hegemony that Gramsci talks about
Getting some seriously bad vibes from this whole thing. It’s like they’ve found some way to inoculate people against even the barest sort of solidarity- I fear the coalition politics that won even the handful of concessions we got like obergefell might be dead. Granted, that’s exactly what i thought last time this happened too.
Someone’s trying to drive wedges, and it’s working. Divide and conquer by playing up (or creating) animus against one another. Clear as day yet people are walking right into it. What changed?
Worsening material conditions + manufactured culture of individuality prime people to turn against each other?
I don't have a lot of spoons today so no long diatribes from me. I'm just wondering what it was about the proletariat in Russia and China that made them easier to organize vs. Elsewhere.
Russians and Chinese aren't settlers. Russia and China aren't settlers colonial projects.
Yeah, that was the culmination of over a century’s work and various precursor rebellions by various players. We don’t have that kind of momentum, and at this point i'm starting to suspect americans are useless on a psychological level (myself included) so i'm not sure anyone could get it together enough to make anything effective happen.
"You don't get it, I have to support or be tacitly complicit in genocide, otherwise I'll be genocided" is a truly stellar argument. There's even a poem about it:
First they came for the communists, and I didn't say anything because I voted strategically for Hitler
Then nothing happened and that was that.
This is what happens when your entire country is built on the promise that stepping on other people's heads can make you taller
Didn't vote for my favorite color? Hope you die in the camps 🥰♥️
I want you to die because you do not have as much empathy as I do.
They actually believe that, that's their honest argument.
It tells everyone that you never believed in that shit anyway. Kamala losing is helping us see everyone's true colors.
Their continued refusal to properly deal with their cognitive dissonance will always prevent the majority of liberals from realising how outrageously hypocritical they are
That's why I think Democrats won't be elected again. They won't learn from this. They'll just move to the right, alienate even more voters, and lose to Republicans.
I think ~25% of the country voted? Just based off of the votes between all candidates. Biden pulled in ~10 million more votes. There's just going to be less turn out each time.
I hope Trump drives this country into the ground.
Same no saving it
May we fracture into at least 100 pieces
How dare those ideological leftists put the genocide of Palestinians over the emancipatory policy of protecting black men’s crypto investments?
I honestly think most people would highly benefit from reading A Workbook for Arguments: A Complete Course in Critical Thinking
The amount of cognitive dissonance and logical fallacy among these chains of reasoning and “arguments” (and I am using the word argument very generously here) is astounding.
Making sweeping proclamations about black americans being genocide apologists and settlersoff a couple reddit comments is just as insane as libs attacking latinos or other minorities for trump.
Pretty sure the vast majority of black americans support palestine, more than any other demographic. But u/LeResist decided to make an opinion on behalf of all black americans so we have to jump the debate bro logic like excited dogs.
Jan 6th did not succeed ... because Mike pence and the secretaries of states of PA and GA stopped it
And how the fuck is this an argument for linking up with Liz cheney exactly? Did Liz Cheney stop Jan 6th?
Settlers applies to POC as much as it does white people.
Eyo? It really does not.
The US will need to subsume some marginalized groups to maintain it's tenuous facilitation of the primary contradictions no? Some POCs and some queer communities have already become 'white. How would these groups not become settlers? In fact it seems the primary purpose of the Democratic party is to expand whiteness
Being against genocide is really showing a lack of empathy if you think about it 
If it isn't gender wars calling black men bullet bags or black women getting compared to vile things, or diaspora wars, its this bullshit. Seems like the only unity is found in shitting on other groups. Social media is a fucking mistake
Kamala: throws black people in jail disproportionately
Libs: She's black tho, so it's okay
Liberals are a combination of stupid and condescending that just infuriates me
Successive waves of immigration also played a role in reinforcing American ideology. The immigrants were certainly not responsible for the poverty and oppression that lay behind their departure for the United States. But their emigration led them to give up collective struggle to change the shared conditions of their classes or groups in their native countries, and adopt instead the ideology of individual success in their adopted home. Adopting such an ideology delayed the acquisition of class consciousness. Once it began to mature, this developing consciousness had to face a new wave of immigrants, resulting in renewed failure to achieve the requisite political consciousness. Simultaneously, this immigration encouraged the “communitarianization” of U.S. society. “Individual success” does not exclude inclusion in a community of origin, without which individual isolation might become insupportable. The reinforcement of this dimension of identity—which the U.S. system reclaims and encourages—is done to the detriment of class consciousness and the forming of citizens. Communitarian ideologies cannot be a substitute for the absence of a socialist ideology in the working class. This is true even of the most radical of them, that of the black community.
The full piece is well worth a read, and not too long.
The thing these people need rubbing on their faces is that they endorsed genocide, a hard right immigration policy, zero commitment on reproductive rights AND STILL LOST. You fucking sold your soul for nothing, you fucking losers. All you achieved was adding your voices to the chorus of "more racist violence, please".
It's depressing the hell out of me that the attitude "We told the people that they need to support our candidate in spite of the clear and obvious harm that our candidate pledged to perpetuate" followed by losing the election is not leading to "Wow our lack of compassion bit us in the ass and maybe we shouldn't be so quick to sell our souls next time."
Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.
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