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[-] myopic_menace@reddthat.com 108 points 5 days ago

Everyone knows you need to pay for YouTube Premium-Pro-Plus if yo don't want to see ads. Only 69.99 per ~~month~~ week.

[-] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Only 69.99 per ~~month~~ ~~week~~.

Minute watched

[-] Shard@lemmy.world 82 points 5 days ago

Alright where are all the YouTube premium apologetics that keep appearing everytime someone discusses any sort of Ad-blocker?! What do you guys have to say now?!

[-] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago

No ads so far here but I definitely will cancel Premium if I start seeing ads. That’s literally the only thing I’m paying for.

[-] FanBlade@lemmynsfw.com 16 points 5 days ago

These are screenshots and don’t prove anything.

[-] Nalivai@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

I'm continuing apologising for premium exclusively because it pays creators more, and more consistently. I never go on the internet without all the adblocks possible, the sight of an add makes me irrationally angry. I'm still paying for premium

[-] pugsnroses77@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 days ago

most creators have patreons or sell merch. youtube doesn't get a cut from that so you can support more directly!

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[-] frigidaphelion@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

I have a youtube premium account. Used to just use u-block but my computer is non-functional and I now primarily consume media on my ipad so I got a subscription. So far I have not had any ads. Working on getting a new pc and coming back to the light

[-] BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca 15 points 5 days ago

You can download Firefox and install Ublock on the mobile app, then just go to YouTube.com. That's how I usually do it on my android phone anyway; I assume it works for iOS too

[-] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 days ago

No no no no, you're supposed to use the app on mobile devices. There are no browser pages in mobile Ba Sing Se /s

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[-] CptEnder@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Uhh I don't care who doesn't pay for YTP or just blocks them, seems like an odd thing to care about?

I do have grandfathered $7/mo GPM (YTM) which comes with free YTP and I've yet to see ads at all. I don't even get ads on my linked gaming YT account. This kinda seems like misinformation?

If you think paying $10+ for Spotify instead of $7 YTM+YTP then yes, you are a fucking idiot.

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[-] stinerman@midwest.social 57 points 5 days ago

I heard tell from a Gen Xer who said cable TV used to not have ads.

[-] spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works 23 points 5 days ago

You're lying. I can't imagine this so it must be false!

[-] ThePantser@lemmy.world 49 points 5 days ago

We are just one step away from YouTube being a paid only service.

[-] naeap@sopuli.xyz 90 points 5 days ago

I think that would be the death of the platform

I'm even wondering how people can use it as it is without ad blockers or clients like newpipe

Every time I use it on not-my-device I'm losing my nerves, because I have to watch at least 2 ads for a 1min video, when I want to show someone something

[-] renzev@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago

It would be a tragedy if youtube collapsed. There are so many useful and important videos on there. I passed the second year of my engineering bachelor almost exclusively by studying from youtube (the lectures at my college are useless), the vast breadth of content available on that platform simply does not exist anywhere else, and archiving all of it would be a monumental task. With youtube being a net loss for google for multiple years in a row, it's not outside the realm of possibility that if they can't make it profitable, they might just... shut it down like they did with Plus.

[-] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

When they first started ramping up ads and demonetising more videos for being insufficiently advertiser-friendly, they probably still had enough goodwill from users that if they'd immediately launched YouTube Premium and presented it as a way to both remove ads, and support video creators that couldn't rely on ad revenue, it would have been decently successful. A good number of YouTubers who had to switch to sponsorships and Patreon could have been pushing for people to subscribe to Premium instead of play Raid: Shadow Legends, which presumably would have boosted subscriber counts, and might have been enough to make YouTube profitable and much more pleasant for both free and premium users than it is today. Instead, they burned through a large amount of goodwill before implementing Premium, so people were already more reluctant, and for a long while it only shared revenue with a select few channels who were already raking in ad money, and was unaffected by view counts, so early Premium subscribers were paying Logan Paul even if they never watched that kind of video, but weren't paying the channels they actually watched.

[-] naeap@sopuli.xyz 7 points 5 days ago

Maybe we should start mirroring to a federated service

Just some time ago, I was thinking about some P2P Video service, where everyone would provide the data they have - so like a BitTorrent YouTube

But I'm not sure if that would be viable

[-] renzev@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

Just some time ago, I was thinking about some P2P Video service, where everyone would provide the data they have - so like a BitTorrent YouTube

It's called PeerTube. It uses activitypub, the same federation protocol as lemmy. Large creators could certainly afford to host their own videos. Some federation/self-hosting/free software creators already do. Can we have large free-to-use instances where individuals can upload their videos, like we do with Lemmy? I would like to hope so.

But just standing up and copying all of youtube's content? Like I said, it's a MONUMENTAL task. There are around 14e9 videos on there. That's almost two videos for every person on planet earth. And I'm not even sure how useful mirroring would be. It's important for archival purposes, sure, but it's not forward-thinking. For a lot of pieces of content, the value comes mainly from the community surrounding it, not the content itself. Mirroring cuts the community out of the content. I believe that If archiving/mirroring efforts are to succeed at anything beyond occupying disk space, they must be focused on a specific type of content, and headed by people who are genuinely passionate about the content they are archiving, not disintrested data hoarders.

[-] naeap@sopuli.xyz 6 points 5 days ago

PeerTube is really P2P?

Ok, I could have figured because of the name. Now I feel like an idiot...

[-] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 days ago

Yes, it even uses BitTorrent to distribute videos.

[-] BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca 26 points 5 days ago

The same way people watched cable TV for decades. The slow ramp up of ads has a portion of the population prepped to be slightly frustrated, but willing to deal with it.

But yeah having been spoiled with no ads for years now, I have to mute my parents TV every time I go over. Even muted, there's still something about lots of ads that draws my eye more than whatever the actual show is. Drives me nuts.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Just to be clear, ads free cable TV was a thing on a very small minority of cable channels for less than 10 years (from 81 up until 87 if I recall the research I did on the subject correctly), the only reason people keep talking about it is because they didn't live it. At first the vast majority of cable channels were just regular channels from regions too far away to get a signal for with antennas and cable only channels mostly had ads as well, there were something like four of them that didn't.

[-] BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 days ago

I wasn't really referring to the free years, but the many years where people put up with increasingly loud and lengthy commercial breaks which became so invasive that shows would literally design their beats around being interrupted

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I'm even wondering how people can use it as it is without ad blockers or clients like newpipe

I tend to use my TV and don't have a PiHole. I usually watch 20-45 minute long videos and, for some reason, YouTube actually puts fewer ads on longer videos. Get like maybe two, 30 second ad blocks in a ~25 minute video. But then I'll get three, 90 second unskippable ad blocks in a 1:30 video. 🤦‍♂️

IDK why they don't just have it only show an ad every X minutes, regardless of it being the same video or not. Or what about ads on Shorts? I haven't seen a single ad the few times I've been binging shorts.

There are also videos and entire channels that aren't monetized at all that never get ads on them. Like when people put a pirated film on there it doesn't get taken down, it just has no ads.

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What the heck is this "Youtube Premium"?

All I ever know was uBlock Origin.

🏴‍☠️

[-] db2@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago

Yeah, anyone who didn't see this coming hasn't been paying attention.

[-] Slovene@feddit.nl 21 points 5 days ago

paying attention.

They couldn't afford to after paying for yootoob premium.

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[-] Daveyborn@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago

Is it a slow rollout or a experimental update thing? I don't have it on mine.

[-] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 5 days ago

Only in Germany in a test of a lower Premium plan so far.

[-] deus@lemmy.world 35 points 5 days ago

What's the point of paying for YouTube Premium if you get ads anyway?

[-] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 33 points 5 days ago

You get amazing features like: background play (which is more of an annoyance), remember where i left off (which doesnt work whatsoever, even 5 years after it was first released), download video's to watch offline (you need to remember to download them first or hope that YouTube's recommendation algoritm didnt pick videos you've already wachted) oh, and you can get a slightly higher bitrate for 1080p. So basically it loses all value.

[-] Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago

Yea, but your “download” f**ing expires! So it’s useless when you go somewhere with no internet.

[-] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 6 points 5 days ago

wait, what? does it download as some proprietary format and not a normal video file then?

[-] lugal@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 days ago

As if there weren't other ways to download videos from YouTube...

[-] Slovene@feddit.nl 6 points 5 days ago

Hehehe what do you mean? I have no idea what you're talking about. 👀

[-] lugal@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 days ago

Me neither laughs nervously

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[-] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

I remember when background play was for everyone.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 24 points 5 days ago

Well, you get to pay for YouTube and see ads!

[-] kabi@lemm.ee 11 points 5 days ago

Ads inform you of products you might not otherwise know about! What a deal!

[-] psmgx@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

That's be a great if it weren't for the fact that like 95% of the ads I get shown aren't remotely relevant.

It's like gatcha games or diapers. At least the Lexus and Jaguar ads are flattering cuz they think I'm fancy even though I don't make enough to ever afford one.

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[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago

Executive bonuses, of course. Won't you think of the poor millionaires?

/s

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[-] repungnant_canary@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Premium+ coming in 2026 for truly ad-free experience. Premium++ coming in 2028 for truly truly ad-free experience. Premium+++ coming in 2030 for truly truly truly ad-free experience.

[-] GrymEdm@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Part 1: All of history from corporations becoming a thing to present day.

Part 2: The results of heartless corporate policy for the foreseeable future.

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[-] LiPoly@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

That’s fine, at least they just increased the family plan pricing by 60%. Oh, wait.

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