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[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 36 points 7 months ago

I try not to judge Tesla drivers too much since plenty of them bought in before Elon went full mask-off in support of fascism, but if you own a Cybertruck you were 100% aware of what you were supporting when you bought it and I will absolutely judge you for that poor financial decision. Fucking Cyberdorks.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 months ago

People who own Cybertrucks might as well fly giant Trump and Elon flags. Fuck every single one of them.

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[-] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 28 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

He was always crazy though. You just weren't paying attention then. No one remembers him going wild and calling the Thai rescue divers pedophiles to their face and all that?

[-] Ledivin@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago

The rescue divers were the first real public turning point. He has always been crazy, but he tried really, really, really hard to project a cool-uncle, anti-establishment persona online before that.

I think he eventually just realized he was rich enough to stop caring and so he stopped pretending.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 5 points 7 months ago

Teslas have been sold since 2005

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[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago

He was always a shitbag.

He just had good PR, and most people never listened to the people countering it.

Now, he’s fired the PR… and he’s still a shit bag with his crazy on.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 6 points 7 months ago

I'll always remember how surprised most of us were when he turned out to be a shitbag while those kids in Thailand were stuck in a cave. I had no opinion on him until then.

[-] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 months ago

I had tingly sensors going off but I naively assumed that fiasco would have been a death knell for him. This timeline sucks

[-] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 months ago

Some people never heard. I see a lot of people accusing people of not listening, but for the first couple years I heard anything about Musk I didn't hear any negatives. I wasn't looking him up, I'd just see a joke or meme, and since I didn't care much I probably didn't even go into comments. I think the first real negative news I heard was the sub pedo incident.

Maybe the Model E Model 3 S3X thing, but at worst I considered that an immature joke and didn't think much further about it, nor heard anyway say anything seriously negative about it.

[-] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 15 points 7 months ago

It may be unfair, but I've been increasingly judgemental of Tesla drivers, especially over the past 4 or 5 years. He used to just be a joke when he was tweeting edgelord stuff like his nightstand and trying to have images scrubbed from the internet of when he was still bald. Model S, model 3, model X (s3x, hur dur). Then I was made angry by the hyperloop and his distracting, unproductive impact of the way America thinks about mass transit. Then I got mad about Starlink, first as extremely expensive, dystopian sky litter. Then as a frightening glimpse at communication control in places with civil unrest/protest. Then he bought twitter, and did a hilariously bad job at running it. Installing a cartoonishly bad sign on his building and whatnot. Naming it something idiotic. Then helping bring Trump back from the dead. Then everything he has done in the 2024 election cycle. I don't know how people can stand to be associated with Elon and all the he represents in any way. It would be like driving around in a Jimmy Savile-mobile.

[-] ch00f@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Because I bought a $60k car in 2018 that still works fine, and replacing a fully functional vehicle is a huge expense to undertake.

[-] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 7 points 7 months ago

I acknowledge that it's unfair, but I'm judging you. Everyone driving in a Tesla looks like a rube at best, tacky and vain at least, or a contributor to fascism at worst. Perhaps you might consider a bumper sticker, haha.

[-] LimeZest@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 7 months ago

The stickers do help, I have seen one before and then I remember how it was exciting in the early days that someone was very publicly making a big push to introduce a viable alternative to internal combustion engines. We know a lot more now about Musk and Tesla than we did back when the first cars rolled out. A lot of the early Tesla owners probably meant well and it doesn’t help that nearly all the infrastructure (at least in my area) is car-only and hostile towards other forms of transit.

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[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago

Ah, back when full self driving was only negative four years into the future.

[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

He pushed Hyperloop such that they build more roads btw. since other forms of transit were just fine or however it went back then. Goal achieved, idiots loved him and argued for this nonsense a lot.

[-] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 10 points 7 months ago

It was an attempt to derail California (and other) High Speed Rail.

Why would you build HSR if there's something way faster/better/cheaper, you just need to wait 5 years? You're going to look really dumb if you spend tens of billions on infrastructure intended to last more than a century, and then it's obsolete before it's complete.

Similar story with Toyota perpetually claiming to have amazing batteries 3-5 years away, making every EV look like an expensive waste with no resale value.

And a hydrogen economy, small nuclear reactors, or fusion power being 5/10/20 years away, removing the need to invest in transmission and generation.

A major paradigm shift being right around the corner makes people choose short-term solutions, because you want to wait for the new thing to arrive before investing in 'old tech'.

The problem is most of it is lies, perpetuated by those selling the short-term-fix old tech.

[-] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 7 points 7 months ago

Exactly. He's the poster child for a virus that is killing our host. Beyond unhelpful, and well into counterproductive.

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[-] Nougat@fedia.io 14 points 7 months ago

Elon has always been crazy.

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 14 points 7 months ago

He used to be better at keeping his mouth shut.

[-] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

He used to have less airtime

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago

If you listened (as most of us in tech did) he's been fucking batshit since the PayPal days.

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[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

He left trumps orbit last time he was president because Trump withdrew from the Paris Accord.

Now he doesn't give a fuck about that or similar things.

He's definitely more crazy / things changed.

[-] superkret@feddit.org 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

He used to depend on that climate money and press for his car business.
Now he can shovel tax money directly into his own pocket, so he doesn't need to pretend anymore.

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[-] swag_money@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

"i bought this before elons insanity was public knowledge" ftfy

[-] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

I bought this before I found out Elon was crazy. Man has always been insane, we just weren't listening yet.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yep. Elons always been a massive piece of shit.

The idiots who've spent the past decade slobbing all up and down his knob have just willfully turned a blind eye to it cause they subjugated themselves to his derranged cult of personality, that was built all around the idea of his "saviour of humanity" bullshit with regards to his stupid rockets and electric cars.

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

I always knew he was crazy, but I never thought he was “kill democracy” crazy. It’s a spectrum.

[-] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Along those lines, the sticker shop from the story has since come out with one that says "I bought this before we knew Elon was crazy."

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[-] Horsey@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

No Android Auto+CarPlay is enough for me to never buy one lol. I’m never paying a subscription on a car lmao.

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[-] Pulsar@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

Here is my favorite.

[-] rational_lib@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Let's be real - all the car companies are owned by terrible people. If it's not Elon, it's some other soulless capitalist who pushed subsidies and lower efficiency standards for mega trucks that speed up global warming just as we're supposed to be slowing it down.

[-] Horsey@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

This ^^

All the CEOs are assholes. The American car companies should’ve collapsed, but instead took a bailout and wasted it. The American consumer benefited basically nothing from the bailout.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 4 points 7 months ago

This is often my thought process when I have to interact with a big company. If I never did any business that would benefit a bad person, I’d basically have to live in a hut in the woods.

However, there are degrees. For years I was sure a model 3 performance would be the perfect next car for me, but now like many people I don’t think I’ll ever be able to stomach owning a Tesla. The Musk connection has blown way past being embarrassing, and now buying one of those damn cars feels like supporting or at least accepting some horrible parts of humanity.

It’s not even a matter of hurting Musk’s bottom line, even though that would be nice. It’s about self respect, trying to put positivity into people’s lives instead of negativity, and being able to look my kid in the eye when he’s an adult and remembers the fucked up years we’re about to endure. I want absolutely zero to do with normalizing fascism and bigotry, even when it comes to something so mundane as the logo on my car.

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[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Kudos to the Tesla owners who realize Musk is still an apartheid supporting turd. My colleague has a Tesla and his wife told him to dump the car.

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Problem is, most Telsa owners still have cars that have many good years left in them, and buying a different new or pre owned EV will be a hit to the pocket book. Especially after selling a rapidly depreciating Tesla.

I get why people are saying “fuck it, I’ll put a sticker on it.” Selling and buying a new car isn’t a thing many people want to do at the drop of a hat. I

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[-] Drusas@fedia.io 5 points 7 months ago

I'd have traded it in by now. Embarrassing to own and mostly junk.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago

Or just sell them. But let's keep driving the free advertisements for a fascist dipshit, because we have a bumper sticker that goes "Haha, I totally didn't give money to the man who helped Trump win!!"

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